In this conversation, Todd Stevens and Travis Groo discuss their history together and their current pursuits. They talk about their past involvement in the music industry, starting a record label and transitioning to a clothing and skateboard company. Travis shares his journey into politics and his involvement with the Libertarian Party. They also discuss the importance of voting based on principles and values rather than voting for the lesser of two evils. Todd and Travis introduce their new podcast where they plan to interview a variety of people and get to know them on a personal level.

Host: Todd Stevens
Co-Host: Travis Groo

Intro track "Rich and Strange" by The Threats.
Outro Track "April 8" by Slowriter.

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