In this episode of The Unobstructed Podcast, Rachael and I talk about emotional endurance vs. resilience—and why most people confuse the two.

Because they’re definitely not the same.

And conflating them is a big part of why burnout sneaks up on so many of us.

We chat a lot about how learned helplessness encourages us to tolerate bad conditions instead of navigating to better ones.

We also get get into:

Learned helplessness and why it isn’t laziness.

How to use evidence to challenge your own assumptions.

What happens when intuition shows up… and when we ignore it

The difference between emotional endurance and resilience.

Embracing conflict and leaning into fear of change.

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The Unobstructed Podcast: Listen in on big thoughts and small steps for navigating agency, grief, and creativity in daily life. New episodes every month.

About the hosts:

Derek MacDonald — writer, thinker, coffee drinker. Started Becoming Unobstructed after 15+ years in marketing, software systems, outdoor education, and leadership development to share what he's learned with others.

Rachael Sink — owner and business consultant at Rachael's Ink, LLC, a HubSpot Gold Solutions Partner agency.

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Visit Rachael’s website: rachaelsink.com

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