We discuss some of the ongoing controversies surrounding President Donald Trump that aren’t related to the Epstein files. That includes Trump pretending he’s going to just give people money — from $2,000 tariff checks to “Trumpcare” cash, the healthcare plan that still doesn’t exist.

We also discuss the lunacy of 50-year mortgages to solve the housing crisis and the controversial pardons Trump is doling out, as long as your money and gifts are good. 

We did everything but dive into the Epstein files too deep, because news on that seems to be changing by the minute.

We began, though discussing the Democrats giving in on the shutdown and reasons behind it — and to be infuriated by it. 

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