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This episode was recorded at The Care Leaders Summit in York. The episode starts with Luke Rodgers, Founder and CEO at The Care Leaders, telling us about The Summit. Hannah and Matt are then joined by Karla George (Founder of The Baloo Project), Rosie Blackett (Director of Pro Alliance Sports), John Golding (Founder of PATH), Lee Weston (Founder of Believe and Achieve), and Tia James (Co-Founder of The Bigin Project) who are all fellows of The Care Leaders Fellowship. The episode explores how the fellowship supported Tia, Lee, John, Karla and Rosie on a personal level and to develop their ideas to support the care experienced community, to build their organisations. The episode goes on to consider what needs to change in the care system, before hearing some reflections from delegates from the Summit. The episode ends with an incredible performance by Ric Diaghe, performing a song written especially for The Care Leaders Summit.

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