BRANDED Leaders

From Zero Trust to 7 Million Users: How They Did It | BRANDED+


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In this episode of Branded, host Jackson Carpenter sits down with Brett Billick, CMO of Self Financial — the FinTech brand helping millions of Americans build credit, save money, and gain financial independence.
Brett unpacks how Self Financial carved out space in a crowded, often predatory industry — not with flash or gimmicks, but with discipline, transparency, and a deep understanding of their underserved audience.
We dive into:

  • Why “unit economics” are everything — and how they built a brand around it
  • The smartest ways to build trust with skeptical customers
  • How to out-market giants without blowing your budget
  • The danger of building features before product-market fit
  • Why brand loyalty starts long before a flashy ad campaign


Whether you're a CMO, startup founder, or just obsessed with brand strategy — this one’s a masterclass in doing more with less, staying mission-driven, and actually helping people.

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