In this episode we talk to another of Kip's life-long contacts (is there no end to this woman's list of friends!?), Matt McGinnis. Matt is a former pastor and a former fire-fighter in the TX panhandle area for over 20 years and has spear-headed a program aimed at teaching front-line responders how to talk to each other about their PTSD-inducing experiences given their inherent reluctance to talk to a counselor. His insights into how that affects you and your practice, your part in responding to Black Swan events, and the guys and gals at your local firehouse is eye-opening to say the least. Worth your time for sure.

Show Notes

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