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Dreamland is a magical place where listeners get to explore the minds of creative geniuses. Your host, Cole Schafer, is a multi-hyphenate writer obsessed with the creative process. His newsletter (coleschafer.com) has a cult following and has been described as a “bump of cocaine for your creativity”.