This month's episode of Whine & Wine has a pretty major plot twist as your host, Jyl, is nowhere to be found. Well, we knew where she was.

As a follow-up to S2Ep4, The Most Unqualified Interview, on which Kathy put Jyl on the interview hot seat, this month it was Rich's turn.

For those not familiar, Rich is the luckiest man in the world, Jyl's husband, and also the topic of many stories in Jyl's best-selling memoir "What to Expect When You Weren't Expecting (Parenting Tales from the Most Unqualified (Step)Mom Ever".

It is fairly common within the step-circuit to hear from the stepparents...but how often do we hear from the biological parent? Rich's advice is top-notch and a MUST LISTEN for the bio-half of all blended families.

If we could sum up that advice in a few words? Well, Rich found the perfect way with this Pulp Fiction quote:

Pride fucks with you. Fuck Pride. Pride only hurts, it never helps.

Listen along as Rich opens up about the things he might have done differently including:

* Having real conversations about expectations whether related to marriage, raising kids, or what each partner brings from their pasts.

* When to stand down and let life play out versus times when it is truly necessary to step in.

* Setting aside that pesky pride.

* Putting marriage first. Yes, that's right--marriage first, not the children.

This interview is packed!! You'll even get to hear about the first time Rich heard Jyl play a butthole symphony (such a treat).

Thank you to Monster Juice for serving as this episode's Nonsor. Find Rich's preferred flavor at your favorite caffeine dealer.

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