This show features Matthew, who is currently incarcerated at Riviere des Prairies prison on the island of Montreal. He shared news with us about the situation in RDP two years into the covid 19 pandemic. After that we heard from authors of the book Disarm, Defund, Dismantle: Police Abolition in Canada, which just came out with Between the Lines press. Editor Abby Stadnyk and authors of the chapter called Defund to Abolish spoke to us about what's in the book, what it was like to write it, and why they think you should read it.