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Fund Tokenization in Focus - Daniel Coheur (Apex Group)
The potential for tokenization is massive - and that applies to the fund industry as well. When smart contracts can help streamline investor onboarding, subscriptions and more, the sky is the limit.
Who has been building for this future? Apex Group, one of the world's largest and most sophisticated firms in the space. On RULEMATCH Spot On, host Ian Simpson sat down with Daniel Coheur, Global Head of Digital Assets at Apex Group (and formely co-founder of Tokeny) to dive into how the company is preparing for an on-chain future.
Show notes:
00:40 - Intro
1:38 - Introduction to Apex Group
2:57 - Two sides of the coin with funds
4:03 - The main driver towards the tokenization of funds
5:37 - The specific benefits of tokenization for funds
7:38 - How a blockchain changes things for funds
10:10 - Possibilities for new instruments
11:01 - Copying the innovation of Franklin Templeton
12:41 - The different layers of tokenized funds
16:13 - The bigger picture with tokenization of funds
17:26 - Introducing asset ID and dealing with the taxonomy
19:07 - The risk of tokenized funds with SPVs
19:55 - A complete view of what tokenization is
23:06 - What the dynamic of ETFs and mutual funds means for tokenized funds
24:04 - Why secondary markets are key
27:41 - What segments are most important
29:51 - Large asset managers in the space
32:48 - Public vs private instruments
33:52 - Global considerations for tokenization at Apex
35:57 - Europe and the pilot DLT regime
36:29 - Finality and a CSD
38:09 - Use cases based on geography
39:41 - The “middle market” that wants tokenization
40:56 - The Swiss DLT law and CSDs
43:29 - Being prepared for the future
44:56 - The need for netting
46:17 - Wallet infrastructure for greater distribution
47:15 - The future of the DLT pilot regime in Europe
49:07 - The backstory of ERC-3643
56:10 - On-chain ID and ERC-3643
58:01 - Working with companies like Microsoft for ID solutions
1:02 - Looking to the future
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ABOUT THE HOST: Ian Simpson is Director of Marketing and Communication at RULEMATCH as well as host of the RULEMATCH Spot On podcast, focused exclusively on the institutional crypto and digital assets industry. Previously he was Head of Marketing at Bitcoin Suisse and Head of Communications at the Crypto Valley Association. Ian is a veteran of the Swiss crypto and digital assets industry since 2017. His insights on the Swiss crypto and blockchain ecosystem have been featured in CoinDesk, the leader in blockchain news.
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Disclaimer:The information contained in this podcast about RULEMATCH AG (“RULEMATCH”) and any guest company is for general informational purposes only and should not be considered exhaustive. They do not imply any elements of a contractual relationship nor any offering.
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By RULEMATCHThe potential for tokenization is massive - and that applies to the fund industry as well. When smart contracts can help streamline investor onboarding, subscriptions and more, the sky is the limit.
Who has been building for this future? Apex Group, one of the world's largest and most sophisticated firms in the space. On RULEMATCH Spot On, host Ian Simpson sat down with Daniel Coheur, Global Head of Digital Assets at Apex Group (and formely co-founder of Tokeny) to dive into how the company is preparing for an on-chain future.
Show notes:
00:40 - Intro
1:38 - Introduction to Apex Group
2:57 - Two sides of the coin with funds
4:03 - The main driver towards the tokenization of funds
5:37 - The specific benefits of tokenization for funds
7:38 - How a blockchain changes things for funds
10:10 - Possibilities for new instruments
11:01 - Copying the innovation of Franklin Templeton
12:41 - The different layers of tokenized funds
16:13 - The bigger picture with tokenization of funds
17:26 - Introducing asset ID and dealing with the taxonomy
19:07 - The risk of tokenized funds with SPVs
19:55 - A complete view of what tokenization is
23:06 - What the dynamic of ETFs and mutual funds means for tokenized funds
24:04 - Why secondary markets are key
27:41 - What segments are most important
29:51 - Large asset managers in the space
32:48 - Public vs private instruments
33:52 - Global considerations for tokenization at Apex
35:57 - Europe and the pilot DLT regime
36:29 - Finality and a CSD
38:09 - Use cases based on geography
39:41 - The “middle market” that wants tokenization
40:56 - The Swiss DLT law and CSDs
43:29 - Being prepared for the future
44:56 - The need for netting
46:17 - Wallet infrastructure for greater distribution
47:15 - The future of the DLT pilot regime in Europe
49:07 - The backstory of ERC-3643
56:10 - On-chain ID and ERC-3643
58:01 - Working with companies like Microsoft for ID solutions
1:02 - Looking to the future
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ABOUT THE HOST: Ian Simpson is Director of Marketing and Communication at RULEMATCH as well as host of the RULEMATCH Spot On podcast, focused exclusively on the institutional crypto and digital assets industry. Previously he was Head of Marketing at Bitcoin Suisse and Head of Communications at the Crypto Valley Association. Ian is a veteran of the Swiss crypto and digital assets industry since 2017. His insights on the Swiss crypto and blockchain ecosystem have been featured in CoinDesk, the leader in blockchain news.
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Disclaimer:The information contained in this podcast about RULEMATCH AG (“RULEMATCH”) and any guest company is for general informational purposes only and should not be considered exhaustive. They do not imply any elements of a contractual relationship nor any offering.