Garr & Sabira continue to introduce new topics to one another, delving into the topic of ISO (International Organization for Standardization) and its importance in setting global standards. They explain the history and purpose of ISO, including its role in defining measurements and discuss the ongoing voting process for defining circular economy standards within the ISO.

As a part of the interview segment, Garr and Sabira are joined by Joanne Rodriguez, Founder & CEO of Mycocycle. The three discuss the use of mushrooms and mycelium to decarbonize industrial waste streams and create renewable bio-based materials. Joanne continues to explain the process of training mushrooms and mycelium to consume waste materials and develop new materials. Joanne shares the challenges and opportunities in the circular economy, including market development and investment.