Alan left Revolut to tackle one of the biggest problems of the next 25 years: energy 

In this episode, we break down how Fuse Energy scaled to $400M in revenue, raised $170M, and is rebuilding the power grid from scratch full-stack, global, and brutally efficient.

We talk energy economics, AI’s power problem, why renewables alone don’t work (yet), and what it really takes to build a trillion-dollar company.

00:00 Why energy is a trillion-dollar problem

01:54 Being the 5th employee at Revolut

04:19 Finding the right co-founder

06:56 The 25-year bet: energy & AI

09:52 Energy vs fintech regulation

12:55 Why Fuse went full-stack

13:18 Cutting power costs by 30%

15:20 What customers actually buy

16:56 $12B of energy wasted every year

18:56 Why the grid is broken

21:16 EVs, smart devices & demand control

24:55 Why 100% renewables don’t work (yet)

27:18 Nuclear: hype vs reality

29:58 Equity vs debt in energy startups

33:40 Hiring elite engineers globally

34:30 The trillion-dollar vision

Rho 

Website - https://www.rho.co/

Public

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Alan Chang 

 https://www.linkedin.com/in/alan-chang

Nichole wischoff

 https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicholewischoff/