Steve Apps is a Smart City and Industry 4.0 technology expert. He’s a past CTO of Huawei Southern Africa for government services. He was also executive for ecosystems and solutions at SqwidNet, rolling out the SIGFOX IoT network across South Africa. We explore what will stop us from becoming smarter cities, financial models and how future cities can be funded, improving public/ private sector collaboration, current state of IoT in Africa, civilization engineering, the role of Blockchain in Africa’s future, what Steve would change if he had a magic wand and his vision of future African cities. Website: https://futurecitiesafrica.com  Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/c/FutureCitiesAfrica