Julie Morley speaks with Joanna about: interspecies intersubjectivity; a life-changing meeting with Thomas One Wolf; the indigenous enphasis on right relations throughout the world; a beautiful cycle of attuning and revelation from the more than human world; the intimacy of interbeing; thinking in partnership with other ways of knowing; the two meanings of awe; retrieving the embodied sacred; a shift away from anthropocentrism into partipatory awakening; we need multicultural, multispecies cities; learning from crows and ravens; singing the radical song of enchantment.

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