The conversation began with these questions: Where is this present moment taking us? What can we radically imagine for our future survival knowing what we know now? In times of crisis, seemingly impossible ideas become imaginable. What does or might the economy of healthcare, the collective practice of care, look like on the other side of this? What is your best and worst case scenario? What is the spiritual mandate of this new time? What is our charge moving forward?

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This episode is part of a series in collaboration with Cara Page, Susan Raffo and Anjali Taneja. Learn more about their work at Healing Histories;Disrupting the Medical Industrial Complex. Editing by Wazi Maret www.wazimaret.com, transcription support by Kolenge Fonge and music by Abhimanyu Janamanchi.