In this podcast I speak with Christoff Smuts, Mpiyakhe Dhlamini , Scott Mclaren and Russel Mclaren and we speak and debate about future strategies for South Africa. We share a bit of laughter as well, because lets face it..... politics in South Africa has created that inner dark sense of humour in all of us.

Scott and Russel's You Tube channel :  https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGwFgf_LSGZr3Huhg0qEC5w/videos 

Netflix's " The Great Hack" :https://www.netflix.com/za/title/80117542 

Book mentioned in the podcast (Scott) : http://www.st-michaels.co.za/Documents/light-through-the-bars.docx

Mpiyake's Link mentioned in the podcast: https://www.wired.com/story/italy-five-star-movement-techno-utopians/