In this episode we talk to Lee and Susan Gaddis out of Detroit. That is right, The home of Muscle cars is home to miniature wargaming manufacturer that specializes in making sure everyone who fights get recognized, and that anyone who wants to play gets recognized.

We talk about their latest weird WWII game Empire Falls and their older weird Great War game Shattered Crown. While we do talk about manufacturing, game design, and miniature design and manufacturing (with commentary on SIOCAST), at certain points the show devolves into me giving a wish list of what I am looking for. And, I was not disappointed as he has plans to introduce models for the 555th Parachute Infantry Battalion and various WWII Chinese factions.