In the second half of my late, late-night conversation with my friend, Gail Oliveira, we get a little...candid?...about our conundrum of being single at this stage of our lives. We talk about how we go about figuring out what we want in a partner and discuss examples we've seen in other relationships.

I tell the story of my grandma Maysel's second marriage (lots to learn from her!) and from there we go all over the place and back about family and how it shapes who we are. Enjoy!

You can learn more about Gail at https://GailOliveira.com

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