In this episode we conclude our chat about Gavin's very clever picture book The House that Jack Built ,which deals withthe complexities of British Colonisation in New Zealand. We then move on to his new project on the New Zealand Wars; his wonderful autobiographical novel Teddy One-Eye; and we laugh about the difficulties of dealilng with Hollywood, script writing and agents.

You can find out more about Gavin at gavinbishop.com

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