Gavin is unapologentically a musician. But maybe it wasn't always like that: while he's been in bands his whole life (current one here), like many of us, he used to wonder how much of that side of himself to reveal. Is the wall between creative and "business guy" ever there for a good reason? We discuss.

Also check out his other musical project where he engineered and mixed.  https://thejaguarclub.bandcamp.com/album/close