Gavin Ortlund (PhD, Fuller Seminary) is Senior Pastor of First Baptist Church of Ojai, in California. He is also the founder of Truth Unites, which seeks to provide an irenic voice on theology, apologetics, and the Christian life.

In this interview, Josh and Gavin discuss Gavin's latest book, Why God Makes Sense in a World that Doesn't: The Beauty of Christian Theism.

Gavin has established himself not only as a prolific author and theologian, but also as a gracious and thoughtful voice in the arena of apologetics.