Is gardening in the ground overrated? That's not exactly what Joel Karsten is saying in his new book, Straw Bale Solutions, but he does offer a "Plan B" if you have nasty soil...or none at all! Half a million people have started growing veggies and ornamental plants in straw bales since he started promoting his technique about a decade ago. Listen to Mike and Peggy's conversation with Joel and see if it's right for you.

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