Gemma gave birth to her second baby in June 2020 and says she was left unable to pick her newborn up or easily access pain relief during the 2 days she spent in hospital. She tells host Phillippa that she was left crying in pain as she waited for someone to bring her morphine after a long labour which ended in a c-section. Gemma also draws on the comparisons and differences between having a baby in 2016 vs 2020.

Your host is Phillippa Guillou, a journalist and radio presenter whose own baby was born at the height of the pandemic. You can get in touch with Phillippa here.