Note: This podcast was originally posted on November 6th, and we're reposting it to our main podcast channel.

Welcome to the Conversations with Puppet Labs podcast. We'll be talking with folks in the industry about a variety of topics that affect IT operations.

Over the next few weeks, we'll focus on what it means to be a change agent in your organization, and how ops can influence positive change. We'll explore the challenges and roadblocks you might come across when trying to implement change, and we'll dive into some of the technical aspects of implementing IT automation and other DevOps practices.

We're kicking things off with Gene Kim, author of The Phoenix Project and founder of the DevOps Enterprise Summit. Listen as Gene describes what it means to be a change agent and some of the challenges you may face, such as:

• Doing automated testing right (or at all)

Have a story about making positive change on your IT operations team? Tell us about it: email [email protected].

Theme music: "Smirking" by BenSoundBeats