We might change the name of this podcast to “how to solve problems during the taping of a podcast”. Everything that could go wrong during this recording did. One problem being the sound wasn’t plugged in. (Sorry about the quality for the first 10 minutes). We call Chase’s grandma and have many difficulties actually getting her on the phone, but once we did, it couldn’t have been more interesting. John self proclaimed this episode "the best podcast we’ve done and if there’s a podcast award show this is the one we’re submitting”. Wow. Now that’s a bold statement. Hope you agree.