Geoffrey Cain is an award-winning foreign correspondent and scholar of East Asia. His first book, Samsung Rising: The Inside Story of the South Korean Giant That Set Out to Beat Apple and Conquer Tech, is the definitive text on the world’s largest tech conglomerate. His second book, The Perfect Police State: An Undercover Odyssey into China's Terrifying Surveillance Dystopia of the Future, is the best available book on the subject.

He is a former correspondent for The Economist, a regular commentator in The Wall Street Journal, Time, Foreign Policy, The New Republic, and The Nation, and a frequent guest on CNN, MSNBC, BBC, and Bloomberg. He is a term member of the Council on Foreign Relations and a senior fellow at the technology think tank the Foundation for American Innovation. Geoffrey is a fearless journalist, heavyweight intellectual, and a dear friend. For more, visit his website and follow his X account.

In this discussion, we talk about recent events in Israel, the radicalization of the left since the 1960s, my cancellation, the evidence we have for the Uyghur genocide, what the U.S. should do if China invades Taiwan, Chinese public support for Xi Jinping, rural Cuba’s opposition to communism, the technology behind China’s police state, why you shouldn’t download TikTok, and the story of Israel’s phenomenal success.

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