In this episode, George and James go back and forth interviewing one another about their respective backgrounds, as a primer on why they’ve come together for the podcast. George inquires into the eclectic nature of James’ personal and professional life, as a fitness provider for tactical professionals, as well as someone with a graduate level education in philosophy and psychoanalysis, and an ex-Mormon with an ethnic Armenian father. The questions of finding a home, belonging to something, and also needing to bring something good to bear on community come to the foreground. When it’s James’ turn to interview George, the discussion passes from George’s own unique background as a former childhood actor turned spiritual seeker, with an emphasis on how early adverse experiences and traumas have shaped George’s own unique disposition, spiritual practice and perspective on life, relationships, and other matters.