In this episode, Mike gets the inside scoop as he chats with Gerard Smith, the Global CMO of Freedom Foods, soon to be called Noumi (subject to shareholder ratification).  Aside from learning the potential new name for Freedom Foods, they discuss how much Gerard learned from his time leading marketing and CX for TAFE  and how leaving FMCG and working overseas could be enhancing for your career and leadership; the dynamics of the relationship between CMO and CEO and what role marketing plays on the ELT.