Get Out There Podcast

Welcome to Get Out There Podcast Episode 22: Wet Weather Clothing Kit Guide & Gear Swaps and Insulated Bottles.

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Welcome to Get Out There Podcast Episode 21: Camping Under The Snow Line In Eastern Oregon & Winter Plans and Hell’s Canyon Memories.

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Welcome to Get Out There Podcast Episode 20: 167 Billy Newman Photo podcast mixdown Coyote Sighting – Part 4 & Exploring IPFS and Distributed Audio.

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Welcome to Get Out There Podcast Bonus Episode with host Billy Newman.

Billy Newman discusses his recent adventure travel experience camping under the stars at Warner Rim in southeastern Oregon. He highlights the unique geological features of the area and describe how they utilized a natural, dispersed campsite sheltered by a high rim rock ridge.

Show Notes for the Billy Newman Photo Podcast

Billy shares reflections on creative workflows in photography, discusses Comet NEOWISE and stargazing in rural Oregon, recounts recent outdoor camping and photo expeditions, and dives into technical thoughts on camera equipment and the creative process. He also touches on issues like light pollution, the evolving nature of digital cameras, and the unique challenges of capturing stunning night sky photography.

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[MUSIC] Hello and thank you very much for listening to this episode of the Billy Newman photo podcast. I hear different industries kind of talk about what a good day of work is or how that is to kind of get out and get what you need done. And just as like a creative system, it's sort of tough in photography. There's a lot of the entrepreneurial and sort of business related stuff of how do you get paid and how do you operate in a business, how do you function as a photographer sort of a thing. But still outside of that you need to do something nourishing in the system of creativity where you're kind of gaining new ideas and putting new materials together and sort of figuring out a way to make a union of something new with media and with something visual, especially as fast as technology is moving forward. It's definitely an interesting vector kind of using the progression of technology and artistic creativity to try and make new pieces of media to put out. And that's what I really like about new media as it goes. So it's kind of interesting. I'm kind of thinking about the way of making pieces of media and new media elements and working with photographs and stuff. But it's something that I've been really interested for a long time. [MUSIC] You can see more of my work at BillyNewmanPhoto.com. You can check out some of my photo books on Amazon. I think you can look up Billy Newman under the authors section there and see some of the photo books on film, on the desert, on surrealism, on camping. Some cool stuff over there. And I wanted to jump into a couple of the things I've been doing through the month of July and some of the outdoor camping and travel stuff I've been up to. I was going to run down some of that in this podcast today. I wanted to talk about a trip I did out toward Eastern Oregon, I think like last, or what was a week before last is when I was out in this area. And I was trying to get some good observations in for Comet NeoWise. I'm not sure if any of you guys got to check that out while it was in its prime viewing section there. I think that was why we had the new moon before it switched over to being a gibbous moon or a nearly full moon like it's been the last week or so. But I think, what was it, around the 15th through the 25th or so of July, there were some pretty good observations to be made of Comet NeoWise. I guess after reading about it a little bit, it's not considered a great comet, like HaleBopp was, or I think it was Hayataki in 1996. We haven't had a great comet in a long time. I've ever seen those when I was a kid though, and that was pretty cool. Watching HaleBopp come through for, it seemed like three months or something. You were just looking at that in the low corners of the Northwestern and Western skies. It was cruising across the skyline there. I remember that still from third, fourth grade when it was coming through. And I also remember the year before that, when straight up in the sky at night, for it was only a week or so. I was a kid, but I remember for that week, you could see a real bright two-tailed comet that was going through. I think, I can't remember how to pronounce it, I think it's Hayataki or, I think it's some Japanese name, I'm pretty sure. But that was a really cool one. That one I still remember really clearly. I was only like, I don't know, seven or something when that, when that comet came through, but I really appreciate getting to make some observations. So that one, when I was a kid, I missed Haley's comet though, back in what, '87, I think was the last one it came through. And I probably will be the few years or that, that decade or two of age range that doesn't get to see Haley's comet in their lifetime. So I think I was born in '88, of course. So if I make it past a hundred, maybe I'll see it. What is it? Maybe like 80 something years. So it's probably not going to come back around until, I think it's like the 2070s or 2080s that I'd have to make it to, for to see Haley's comet again. It'd be fun, but I don't know, maybe we'll see how future, how the, you know, the future is at that time. But it was really cool to get to see comet Neowise. It was just a little below what would be the legs and feet of Ursa Major, the Big Dipper or like the Big Bear as it would kind of be observed. But if you kind of look at the Dipper part that we're all mostly familiar with, if you kind of consider Ursa Major, the larger bear constellation that it's structured on, if you kind of look down below the Dipper is where I was able to make my observations, the comet Neowise. And over here in the elevation area that I'm at in Western Oregon, it's about 200 or 300 feet above sea level. And there's kind of a constant problem with haze and with light pollution in this area. And I think it has to do something with, well, like, I mean, of course, you know, the amount of population that's around, but also there's something about the air quality or about how the air kind of flows out around here that just doesn't ever seem to be as crisp or as dark as you can get up in the mountains. And really, it's just like a stunning difference when you're able to get out further and make some some more clear observations. You know, the level of magnitude of stars that you're able to reveal just in a dark night is so much more crisp and clear. It's just like a it's a total difference. So it was cool to I think I first was able to spot just a little fuzzy bit of a second magnitude version of comet Neowise while I was here in town. But I tried to make a special trip out toward eastern Oregon out into the desert just to do some camping stuff. But what I wanted to do at the same time was make some good observations and also try and get some good photographs of common Neowise as it was coming through during its period where you could you could make some some good sightings. But it was cool. So going out to eastern Oregon, as it got dark a little past 1030 or so, as you look to the northwest, you could really see the comet and its tail spread for a couple inches in the sky. And I was really surprised to notice how little of it you could really make out or see when you're in an area of almost any light pollution once you're back in town or once you're in a lower elevation area with some light pollution and haze around. It was really difficult to make out in the same way that I could out in the desert or out in the mountains. And so I thought that was pretty cool to get to get to see and get to check out over there. But yeah, it was a blast getting to do some stuff out in eastern Oregon. I went over to the John Day River area and I was checking out that area. There's a lot of public land out in that area, but there's also some a lot of private land, too. It's just kind of an interesting area, how it's sort of broken up. And it was cool to get to go out, go out to the I headed out to Madras and then I took off and headed over east of there until I ran into the John Day River. And then I was able to use this map that I have to go through and find some of the open off or just the open roads that are, you know, the smaller gravel roads that are set up to kind of traverse the backcountry out there. So I was able to find a few of those that were open and travel around on those for a while. Now, that was pretty cool. I was able to find some dispersed campsites and set up right along the John Day River, which is really cool. It's a beautiful area out there. It's kind of interesting. The John Day River flows through this sort of, I guess it would be, I don't know, it's kind of like Canyonland and it's also sort of these rolling grass hills that sort of make up the landscape of Northern and Northeastern Oregon. And I think, yeah, as soon as you kind of get a little bit for like a little bit north of Bend is when you get out of the Great Basin area and you start to get into another kind of landscape that seems to stretch up north of the Columbia River up into Washington. I figured that some of it's from like really old deposits from the river systems and the waterways that were up there and how there's old deposits and then an erosion that's happened from those rivers running through the area for such a long time. But really cool to see kind of the rolling hills and then some of the carved out canyons that go through the John Day River area up there. When I found the campsite I was at, I was pretty far away from everybody and I was really far away from any substantial town. I think I was near, I don't know, I don't even know what it is. There wasn't anything there when I drove through it. There was a bridge and a couple little ranch houses, you know, real ranches, right? Like just a little house, like a little two bedroom house and then 100 acres of cattle to deal with. So it seems like another life out there. I wonder how they're dealing with, you know, kind of the way of the world as things are this summer. But it was cool, yeah, getting out there. Went to, oh yeah, I kind of set up my campsite and stuff, had my truck going, and that was all pretty easy going. But then I waited till dark after 1030. Yeah, Comet NeoWiser is really visible up below the Big Dipper. That was pretty cool to get to see out there in eastern Oregon. Really bright, really clear. You could almost make out the second tail. I have my binoculars with me. I think there's some 10 by 42s and those worked really well to view it, to view the comet. Looked really crisp through the binoculars and it got really easy to spot most of the night. Even just to the naked eye, it was really easy to spot it. Just like, oh yeah, it's right there. There's a comet. It's just a big wisp in the sky. So it was really cool to get to view it. What I did is I set up my tripod and I have my camera with me. And so I set it up with a really wide angle and then I was trying to get some photographs of it as the comet was coming down to set on the landscape of the hillside as the hours went on into the night. So I think I stayed out until maybe one or two in the morning when the Big Dipper was sort of scooping down a little low onto the horizon. And then at that point, the place where the comet was dipped below the horizon and then was out of view for the rest of the evening. And I think even into the morning, I think by that time when I was photographing it, it wasn't visible any longer up in the morning sky. I think they said at first in early July, you could kind of view it around Capella if you were able to get out early enough, say three or four in the morning. But as the direction, as it was moving, it was kind of creeping up pretty quickly, day over day over day. It would kind of move a good chunk through the sky. And the direction that it was moving, it was moving to be more visible at the nighttime, which really offered more hours of good observation time. Which I thought was pretty cool to wait until it was really dark enough in the northwest view of the sky, probably about 1030 onward is when you were finally able to make out those kind of finer points of light in the sky in that region. So it was really cool to set up the tripod, set up the camera, set up some manual focus to get it kind of set sharp. You can't use autofocus when you're trying to make photographs of the night sky and the stars because it just kind of seeks back and forth. You have to set it to manual focus and then ring out your focus ring to infinity and then just back a little bit. You'll notice this every time if you do it. It's really frustrating, the dark, because you can't really always make it out in an easy way and edit your mistake quickly. But if you go all the way to infinity and then take pictures there of the night sky, you're going to notice that those points of light that are the stars sort of end up a little fuzzy. And it's because all the way to infinity for whatever reason just isn't quite in focus at infinity. So you have to go all the way out to infinity and then back it off just a little bit. And that'll nearly ensure that most of that part of the image is in focus the whole way. And it's difficult even if you do have an f-stop that's a little bit more tightened out, say like an f4 or f6 or something, you're still going to get a lot of that out of focus softness. If the focus ring isn't really dialed into the right spot. So I try to work on that a little bit. And yeah, dialed in my focus was able to set it up with a reasonable ISO to get some images of the night sky and pick up some of those finer points of light. And then I was able to take a series of photographs in a few different locations out there in the John Day River Valley, which I thought was really cool. It was pretty to be out there and it was a nice night, really warm in the river canyon. And really remote too, like I was mentioning, I think I was the only person out there for a few miles. I saw another group coming in on a, they had like a little mid-size SUV and they were going fishing out at a bend in the river a couple miles up from where I was. And so I took my truck down a little further and camped out just on the side of the river. It was cool, nice green river up to the kind of high desert tan rim rock that runs the area around there. So it was a cool evening, cool campsite area. It was a cool spot to check out Comet NeoWise too. So I tried to check it out up until, I don't know what, you know, 1.30 in the morning when I couldn't see it anymore. And then spent the night out there out in the John Day River area. And then the next morning got up and tried to check out some of the different roads and stuff that went around. You can check out more information at billynumanphoto.com. You can go to billynumanphoto.com/support if you want to help me out and participate in the value for value model that we're running this podcast with. If you receive some value out of some of the stuff that I was talking about, you're welcome to help me out and send some value my way through the portal at billynumanphoto.com/support. You can also find more information there about Patreon and the way that I use it. If you're interested or feel more comfortable using Patreon, that's patreon.com/billynumanphoto. I've got the Sony a7R going through its paces. It's been really cool using it for the last couple weeks. I've been trying to figure out its idiosyncrasies and there are a lot of them. There's a lot of them with these newer cameras and I can see definitely where from the a7R or from the first series of the a7s to the a7II and so on and so forth with the better and different accentuated camera models, they get better. They really do get better. There are some things with the first renditions of the electronic viewfinder and the system of how that takes photos, how it kind of interrupts when you're taking photos that don't quite seem to the level of professionalism that I'm really trying to hit for. I know that there's a lot of custom settings that I have to go into and sort of tweak how that a7R is going to be grabbing at photos and then how it's chimping. You guys heard of that before? Chimping. I don't know what it really has to do with but it's referring to when you take a photograph or you take a couple of photographs and then you look down at that screen on the bottom of your digital camera, the back plate of your digital camera. You look down and you see the photo and then you come up, you recompose and you shoot again and then come down and look at it. It's, I guess, I don't understand it completely. It just seems sort of like a modern approach to something that the technology allows you to do. I think it's totally acceptable but for whatever reason, it is sort of an interference in the creative or in the photography process sometimes. I know that there are many pros, all of those pros coming from a past world that's no longer here a film where it wasn't really acceptable to do half shutter press autofocus. You have to do autofocus from the back and then shutter is its own system. With that, there's all these kind of silly rules about how you can use focus, how you can use composition stuff, how you can set up your frame, when you can look at the screen or when you can review the images. I guess these film shooters, they thought it was uncouth to be able to review or see the photograph before the film was developed or before it was later on. Interesting and I see kind of psychologically there's this path that does seem to create better work or more intuitive photographs and those are better. They are more needed and I can see where some of these tricks might get you closer to that but the idea of just looking at the back of the screen that doesn't impede you so much and it doesn't really stop you. If you're a pro and you know what you're doing, you look at the screen, you're looking at the screen because you know why you're looking at the screen. It doesn't really seem to make sense that there's these sort of sideways rules about features you can and can't use that are put into your camera. But to speak about efficiency, the problem that I noticed about the a7R is that it will display the image to you for about a second and a half, two seconds and it will display it on the screen but it'll also display it in the electronic viewfinder for your eye. And you can shut this feature off but there's still a little bit of a hiccup around the time that you hit the shutter button. And the problem with this is if I'm framed up to take a photograph, let's say of a situation I remember back at OSU when I was shooting sports a lot, let's say there's a football game, I'm out in front of the action and I see that the beefs set up a play, they throw a pass, the guy gets it, he's right in the pocket on the third of the frame that I have and I have focus tracking on him. I want to take a series of shots with a high frame rate so I can get that whole run of action as he moves towards me. And so the issue that I'm having is in photography you're trying to select moments that look good. That's kind of the point. Aesthetically you want them to be choices that are appealing and that has to do a lot with gesture, a lot with movement, a lot with kind of positioning and framing and composition and sort of thoughtfully considering what does the person look like? How are all these things in the frame relating to each other and is it going to work when you press the shutter? And the difficulty is with these a7Rs or even with the Sony a6000 when I'm looking at it and I take this series of photographs, I'm almost blind that whole time. Whereas before in the past when I would have been working with an SLR, there's the shutter flap where you see black for just a moment but it comes back and it's optically correct immediately. It's optically correct to what you're going to be shooting but with the EVF there's just enough lag that in high action you seem to kind of miss where the gesture is. If stuff's moving around it seems like you almost have to kind of guess or assume that the next moment's going to happen and then try and take it but you can't see it. It's weird. It's like it shuts off the viewfinder right at the time that you need to be looking through it. And so in some ways like that it's a little bit complicated of am I framed up right? Am I looking at the thing right? When I take the picture it just shows me something else all of a sudden. And I know that they've solved a lot of these problems like if you look up the Sony a9 and some of the features that it has if you bring that into high speed shooting it's got this interesting system where instead of having the electronic viewfinder blink black or cut out completely have the processor move all of its attention to processing that image that it just captured and then bring back the electronic viewfinder momentarily later. What we see in the a9 is a system where there's the bracket. There's like a let's say like a red focus bracket that kind of goes around and you're shooting, you're shooting, you're shooting. But what you're seeing is instead of the electronic viewfinder blinking out black and then showing you a frame or just blinking out black and then coming back on what we see is just that bracket, that red bracket blink yellow or blink from black to yellow or black to red or something like that. And all that's indicating is that it is firing frames, but you're just still seeing it completely normally like you would view any action on a screen. And that's a really interesting process. I think it's like, I don't know, it's like 20 frames a second or something like that. It's almost video at that point when you're shooting raw frames. Are you kidding me? Raw frames on a Sony a9 at God knows what almost 50 megapixels that it's shooting at. And you can do 20 frames a second just looking at the thing and then seeing a little black bar blink yellow and that's signaling that you're capturing all that data. Thanks a lot for checking out this episode of the Billy Newman photo podcast. Hope you guys check out some stuff on Billy Newman photo.com. A few new things up there, some stuff on the home page, some good links to other, other outbound sources, some links to books and links to some podcasts, links to some blog posts. All pretty cool. Yeah. Check it out at Billy Newman, a photo.com. Thanks a lot for listening to this episode of the podcast. Talk to you next time. Bye. [MUSIC]

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162 Recording Landscape Videos In The Rain

Recording landscape video clips of Oregon in October. Creating time-lapse video of the clouds passing over the valley. Working with wet camera gear.

Gear that I work with 

Professional film stock I work with https://imaging.kodakalaris.com/photographers-photo-printing/film/color

I keep my camera in a Lowepro camera bag 

https://www.lowepro.com/us-en/magnum-400-aw-lp36054-pww/

When I am photographing landscape images I use a Manfrotto tripod 

https://www.manfrotto.com/us-en/057-carbon-fiber-4-section-geared-tripod-mt057c4-g/

A lot of my film portfolio was created with the Nikon N80 and Nikon F4

https://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/f4.htm

https://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/n80.htm

The Nikon D2H and Nikon D3 were used to create many of the digital images on this site https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikond3 https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikond2h

Two lenses I am using all the time are the 50mm f1.8 and the 17-40mm f4 

https://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/5018daf.htm

https://www.kenrockwell.com/canon/lenses/17-40mm.htm

Some astrophotography and documentary video work was created with the Sony A7r

https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sony-alpha-a7r

I am currently taking photographs with a Canon 5D

https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canon-eos-5d-mark-iii

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If you want to look at my photography, my current portfolio is here.

If you want to purchase stock images by Billy Newman, my current Stock photo library is here.

If you want to learn more about the work Billy is doing as an Oregon outdoor travel guide, you can find resources on GoldenHourExperience.com.

If you want to listen to the Archeoastronomy research podcast created by Billy Newman, you can listen to the Night Sky Podcast here.

If you want to read a free PDF eBook written by Billy Newman about film photography: you can download Working With Film here. Yours free.

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I am Billy Newman, a photographer and creative director that has served clients in the Pacific Northwest and Hawaii for 10 years. I am an author, digital publisher, and Oregon travel guide. I have worked with businesses and individuals to create a portfolio of commercial photography. The images have been placed within billboard, print, and digital campaigns including Travel Oregon, Airbnb, Chevrolet, and Guaranty RV.

My photographs often incorporate outdoor landscape environments with strong elements of light, weather, and sky. Through my work, I have published several books of photographs that further explore my connection to natural places.

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158 Early Chanterelle Season

Scouting for Chanterelle mushroom areas. Camping around hunting season. Photography gigs at properties damaged by the fires.

Gear that I work with 

Professional film stock I work with https://imaging.kodakalaris.com/photographers-photo-printing/film/color

I keep my camera in a Lowepro camera bag 

https://www.lowepro.com/us-en/magnum-400-aw-lp36054-pww/

When I am photographing landscape images I use a Manfrotto tripod 

https://www.manfrotto.com/us-en/057-carbon-fiber-4-section-geared-tripod-mt057c4-g/

A lot of my film portfolio was created with the Nikon N80 and Nikon F4

https://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/f4.htm

https://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/n80.htm

The Nikon D2H and Nikon D3 were used to create many of the digital images on this site https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikond3 https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikond2h

Two lenses I am using all the time are the 50mm f1.8 and the 17-40mm f4 

https://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/5018daf.htm

https://www.kenrockwell.com/canon/lenses/17-40mm.htm

Some astrophotography and documentary video work was created with the Sony A7r

https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sony-alpha-a7r

I am currently taking photographs with a Canon 5D

https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canon-eos-5d-mark-iii

If you’re looking to discuss photography assignment work or a podcast interview, please drop me an email. Drop Billy Newman an email here.

If you want to book a wedding photography package, or a family portrait session, please visit  GoldenHourWedding.com or you can email the Golden Hour Wedding booking manager here.

If you want to look at my photography, my current portfolio is here.

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158 Billy Newman Photo podcast mixdown Early Chanterelle Season

Hello, and thank you very much for listening to this episode of The Billy Newman photo podcast. Appreciate you guys checking this one out. It's been falling off for this last week. So we got a good bit of rain that had come down for a while here in the northern Oregon area, I was looking on the map on the like radar map the weather map, and it was showing like a pretty good bit of rain that was hitting, I think I call across the wall. Now across the west coast, but all across the Northwest area is, I think it's all like going up into British Columbia pretty far. But I think for this week, it's supposed to be dry, as like, we wait for the next system to kind of push through, and it was kind of weird to kind of change the weather pattern there a little bit, but I think it's been going okay for the fire recovery stuff. So a lot to do and a lot going on. And a man like I'm sure like some of the state highways that cut across the Cascades are going to be shot for probably most of the winter, I wonder if they're going to recover in that way, you know, like just with some of the towns that are just no longer there, they're gonna have to take a long time to rebuild but all the fire damage of, of trees and stuff, they're going to be down the road, and then all the potential damage that's going to come from this winter, as we get heavier rains, heavier snowfall on those broken trees, the ash in the mud and stuff. And I guess there's like a high risk of a mudslide on yours that follows a big fire like this. So that'd be, I guess, a bigger concern too, now that we're talking about some areas that have pretty highly populated highway systems that travel through those passes. So we'll be I'm sure they're gonna try and survey to recover that stuff safely. But I don't know if they've had this large scale of a problem, at least in this in the state of Oregon as I can ever remember ever recall. I don't recall something like this specifically in places like a place like Washington or California. But there must have been other projects that were similar to this in the past that had been pretty significant problems of burn areas and mountainous regions near populated areas. But I think it's really kind of a unique zone to the northwest. So I don't know if we've had that kind of burn before, at least like in this kind of modern time when we're as populated and with such developed road systems that go around, but I think we're gonna see some of those roads close for a while now. But, yeah, as we kind of move into the fall, getting close to the October coming on, it's kind of cool that Yeah, monster kind of moving by seems like fall as you kind of walk around and stuff. You know, I started kind of poking around a little bit for some chanterelle mushrooms. I think it's probably a good time of year. These next couple of weeks for sure will be in a while I guess like the conditions change for it so quickly that they can come on just within, like what you know, a couple of days of of a change in the weather. And now that it's the right time of season, the right temperature, you know, I've seen like a ring of other like an artist garden wonder what it would be like just like toadstools yard, mushrooms popping up in a ring. In a few places. It's kind of weird how they just kind of wait to this the right time of year, or whatever the conditions are that that causes their micro Raizel relationship to interact the right way. And then they fruit out all these mushrooms, and you see these Yeah, rings little populations of mushrooms around. So it's kind of weird. Yeah, like out like into a field. Well, his drive, and you see, like a patch of mushrooms growing in an area that had already been tilled for the year or something, we think we know that he just comes up there, there's a spot under an apple tree that we've got. And that pops up a ring of like white toast or mushrooms every year, and it seems like or like a couple of times a year, I think, like maybe once spring and now like once in the fall that I've kind of noticed the last couple years. So it's kind of interesting how there are these these little patterns like that. But similarly, there are some patterns to the Shawn trail mushroom growth too. So I think that now that we're in this section of October, and I think probably for the next month or so, we'll probably have pretty fair conditions. If it kind of stays wet, I think it might be a little too dry right now. But if it still was a little bit damp from the heavier rains that we got with the last storm, then there are some forested areas that that might start populating up some mushrooms, but that's where I'm trying to just kind of go around and start scouting out a couple of roads and a couple of areas that I want to go back and check out at some other future time. So it's kind of cool. I'm kind of going out to some Forest Service roads and stuff, getting some gear packed up and pack in a backpack and some binoculars so I can kind of scout around and check out some birds and stuff that's gonna kind of fun spot a couple of hawks or I think I've seen I think it was like earlier this year. I've seen turkeys and their turkeys run around the woods and stuff. It's kind of fun when you spot some of that stuff, but it's been cool hadn't had into the coastal range mountains and trying to hunt around for some good chanterelle picking spots, I guess what you're supposed to look for, are, are like Fern, growing beneath evergreen trees and sort of an open forest floor environment, I think that they don't really grow around deciduous trees that have like a good bit of leaf fall during this time of year. But it's kind of interesting to you know; there's sort of some strange things where there are definitely some places where it Wow, they just like really grow, boom, they're just growing there. And even in circumstances where there are hard conditions or where it's not, it's not an optimal condition for mushrooms to be growing. You'll find them in those really good spots and be like, wow, you know, they're here, but they're really not anywhere else. But I swear, it's weird. Coming up here, probably sometime in the next two weeks, there's going to be just the right conditions where they just seem to pop up everywhere, where a lot of the time where they wouldn't have popped up in another location Are you know, at another time and other conditions that popping up right now. And it seems to be when it's warmer and wetter out? before there's like a colder snap or freeze or something. But I remember going out last year, and we were just driving on a forest road that we've been on a number of times before, even during that time of year, and never really seen anything that we were picking up on shows just off the side of the road in the moss, or like up against the mass of the for injuries and stuff. All over, we picked up like, you know, bags, we like had almost stopped because we were just like, well, I guess we kind of had space and like what are we going to do with these so. So it's kind of cool, like when you can, you can really find a bunch of stuff out there. Sometimes though, the conditions are kind of tight, and sometimes, especially like maybe a year like this the the there's a lot of people that go out to try and pick too. So there's kind of some things around that that are a little tricky. But yeah, I think if you're on public land, though you can forage for Shawn trails, or I think Morales without a permit, then you should look that up a little bit. I guess there are some rules around like picking and not picking. And there's sort of some ways that you can do it, and you can't do it. And I guess that there's also like a sale of a permit if you want to use those mushrooms commercially like I think I'd heard before. Like, if you go, you pick a couple of pounds of mushrooms in a box, and then you can if you have a permit, and yeah, like I don't know, some kind of structured relationship already, you can go to like a local restaurant and sell those on trails off at a, you know, a market rate. And I've heard of people doing that before, as part of a job to work. It's kinda interesting. But yeah, we're kind of coming up into the chanterelle picking season. So that'll be kind of fun to go around Scott around some stuff. But thinking about the fire stuff, too, and kind of some of the photography stuff, I haven't really seen any, any direct damage, or like I haven't been to an area yet that was close enough to see where part of the forest burned, or were part of the populated areas that burned. So that'll be strange, I guess kind of finally see, but when I was looking around at, I got a notification for it was this job, this photo job that's out there. And I've been seeing like a few of these pop up, where I think it's maybe people that don't live in the area. I've seen these jobs before. In other other circumstances, you know, like unrelated to fire or unrelated damage, but where people from another area need to get a number of photographs of a property, or a piece of land or a lot that they own or that they intend to buy. And it's like owned by someone else. So they try and like pay someone you know, like hey, like I'm gonna I don't want to drive to say for myself in Oregon, I don't want to drive to Montana to look at a piece of land yet. I will want to get when it gets close or something, but I want someone else that's in the area to take 45 photographs of it for me and then mail those to me, and I'll pay him $300 or something like that. So I've seen like kind of some gigs like that. And it's been it's probably less than 300 bucks a lot of the time. But I've seen a lot of a lot of jobs like that around in the past before. This time though. Now, after all these forest fires, I was looking at this job that was lined up, and it's asking for a photographer to go in a photograph a mobile home lot in an area that I'm certain was hit by the fire. So I guess my suspicion is that they own a couple lots in the area or they own a property that's related to the lots around there, but they don't live there. And so they're trying to have a photographer come in. And I think photograph like as what's there was laughter What had happened. I guess there's probably a lot of people that are trying to get some information or get some some visual on what had happened in that Their area or if they're, their section is no longer in a restricted zone, they're trying to figure out what like, like, did I have any damage? Or you know, what happened over there? What was the smoke damage? What was it like? So I think there's some some property owners that are trying to get some, some reconnaissance information about whatever was going on with their, their property near and around the fire that had burned. So yeah, looking at a couple of those jobs, I don't think I'm gonna take that kind of job. But if you're interested in it, go ahead and apply, check it out. I don't know really how that works, I don't think you can get into an area that was still being in a restricted zone, or you like a burn zone, if you're not like a property owner. Or if you don't have, it seems like some some kind of better, specific, I mean, I guess you're a photographer, but it just seems sort of like a light activity for an emergency zone. So I think it's probably some areas that are like maybe more of the perimeters of that a little bit outside of the area that would have been damaged or something, but it would be affected by it. So I think there's still like another level one, level two, and level three evacuation zones. Level three was like leave now level two is like, get ready to go right now. And over three was get your things together to be prepared to leave, man. No fun. So I think it's probably some of the areas that were outside of those immediate evacuation zones. And there's some people trying to get some information that probably just don't have access to it. But yeah, kind of interesting to see those photography jobs listed. Now, you know, it was just as things come up, as you know, like a need arises. And photography, real estate jobs exist out there, you know, taking photographs of houses or properties have been around for a while I've done a bunch of them. And it's kind of weird to kind of see that shift over to just try a photograph with left of the real estate Not, not if it's like real estate for sale or a condo to rent. It's just Well, you know, is there anything left to that hillside, there's anything left in my apartment, or house or housing complex. So man, that'd be really strange, a lot, a lot, a weird, weird kind of activities to go on this year. So I'm hopeful that those are kind of more under control now. And I hope that California is also getting some relief. I think it's been, it's been a while now. And I don't think they've got the kind of rain relief that we've had through the later September. And then while I guess now we're kind of waiting through a bit of October for it, but but some of the rainfall that we've had this year, I think has been better here in Oregon than it has been in the parts of southern California that are probably still having a difficult time fighting off the fires and stuff. So man, it's really dry conditions and heat. And you know, late summer heat, man, it's rough. So not very fun. But as it goes, Yeah, I think like a lot of stuff has kind of been affected or kind of moved around because of the fires that there's a lot of smoke that's now kind of blown eastward. So I think parts of eastern Oregon are pretty smoky by better, but pretty smoky. If you're kind of in line at one of the fire areas, it's really pretty good over here, like on the west coast, western side of the Cascades. As you go in most of the way up and down the I five corridor, I think when we were doing that, we only ran into a couple patches where you go over like a mountain pass and then you're in an area that has sort of hazy skies or a little bit of smoke and they're really kind of near an area that has a fire going on. So it's kind of weird how there's a couple pockets that that still have a little bit of smoke on the west side of the Cascades, but I think a lot of that is that pushed a little bit more toward the east. And that you know, also I guess kind of bums out people on the eastern side of it too. So I was also thinking about like hunting season or about really just a lot of the outdoors people that are going out and trying to do some stuff during the fall for myself it was a lot of photo trips and a lot of like kind of September and October planned outing or you know kind of camping and traveled trips that I was going to try and go through some public lands over in the upper parts of eastern Oregon that I think are best during this time of year of September and October out there. I think it's really cool watching the aspen trees kind of start to change their color kind of turned into their fiery yellows and oranges and reds as they start to change over under the fall and lose their leaves and get into Washington the animal like the antelope and stuff move over and in southeastern Oregon, it's really cool. Or probably a bunch of the other stuff you get to see right now too. And yeah, it gets to be a bit more of a populated I think time of year. Probably coming up on is it October 1 it's opening day for for deer hunting season here in Oregon. I'm not 100% sure on that, but I do think that it is coming up here right away. So I think I'm gonna try and get a little bit of a trip out before that starts. So that I can do some stuff. Probably before a big wave of people come out for a couple of weeks to do some deer hunting seven this year. It might be a little bit more busy than other years. All right, I just wonder what the pressure will be like and some of those areas. So I'm going to be kind of try or I'm going to try to be mindful of what's going on, I think, during the next couple of weeks, but really, I've never had a problem, or a difficulty trying to, you know, find a spot or find a place for this thing that I'm up to, while while it's been hunting season out there, and a lot of those places are still pretty remote. Like a lot of places I'd go to take photographs are popular, you know, they're just not really in the same spots. Fortunately, I guess that, that you're going to get a lot of pressure for deer hunting for the next couple weeks. So that's kind of cool. But I do want to kind of explore around a little bit. I know some of those areas this time a year are mostly filled up with people that are that are coming through for tourism-related to like a plant hunting trip that they have. So like they're doing like an elk hunting trip up in the central northern central Northeastern section of Oregon, or over here on Western Oregon. But like I hear like up I think it's like fossil Mitchell. And then as you kind of move up further through the Fremont. Now it's that Fremont up there. I don't know what that one is. Now I forget, I don't know what that for the National forces do. I think it's like the strawberry mountains, the Blue Mountains, as you're moving up toward toward like La Grande Pendleton over there. But I've heard like there's some some areas over there. Well, I mean, there's like there's drainage is for hunting districts all across Oregon, you know, and you can put in for Daggett, I guess, and any number of those. But I know like some of the areas that southeastern Oregon. Like there's a string of these like dispersed remote camps that are out there. And this time of year, they, they get filled up a little a little bit faster. For you know, hunting camps coming through a group of guys coming through and setting up a good rigging of stuff stay in there for about 10 days or so again, or you know, it seems like at least five days, five or six days, and then taking off. So it seems like a few of those spots get kind of held up for a little bit longer periods of time this time of year. But I remember Yeah, it's pretty regular that I try and go out on camping trips through September and October. And definitely through like parts of October. I've never even like through school and stuff there would always be like about at least like a weekend, or like a long weekend trip a year that would be out to somewhere deep in Eastern Oregon to kind of check out some stuff. But yeah, really cool area out there. Especially if you get the weather on your side. I think we're getting at like a nice snap of weather this week, if you're able to do it. And if you're able to kind of check your forecasts and stuff then it's it's a cool time to get out there. While though there's a little bit Chris, but it's still dry enough some ways that you can kind of enjoy yourself. And it's really beautiful for photographs with the trees. Like I was saying, if you're able to get to an area where you're at an elevation that that aspen trees are growing, you can photograph the changes and the colors that they have there too. But it's also pretty interesting area as the weather starts to shift a little bit if you're able to stay there. For me, at least before the snow start starts to fall, which I think is gonna be a little bit late this season. I don't think it seems to be like an early snow season over there. But I have been over there and like mid October when it snowed. But if you're over there, and it's just cloudy as it is or just cloudy and like kind of partly rainy, it's a desert. So you don't really get rained out as heavy as I seem to be it rained out over here on the west side of the Cascades. So you can kind of get out and just be dry and a little bit cold and see some interesting cloud cover kind of blow over the desert valleys out there. So it can be kind of an interesting place to check out at some times. But it can't be pretty harsh to when the winds pick up or especially at night, as the temperature drops and the weather changes. And you're definitely going to be dealing with freezing temperatures. If you're going out there much past much past mid October. Seems like maybe they're probably getting close to a frost or, or near the freeze there. I think they're most serious out there around like 4500 feet by 45 to like 5500 feet, and some can be a mile high. Is it a mile high out and blush, I don't know, probably about 40 to 4500 feet maybe. But there are certainly some areas like I talked about on those last trips where you're going out there and you can you can raise an elevation a few 1000 feet and because like I thought i was relatively flat through most of this area, but now you've been gaining an elevation you can get up on top of rise and be at 6500 feet, you'd be like wow, wow. So I have this interesting and kind of move back and forth. A little bit on you out there. But yeah, it's cool. I'm excited to get out and do some travel through some Eastern Oregon areas during October here. Trying to do some video stuff and some photography stuff. I think I was mentioning that before where a lot of the time I'm working on the photography stuff. We're gonna like some film photos or something, and I'm definitely gonna be doing a lot of that this fall. I'm really trying to focus on some like goals to kind of kind of focus what I'm trying to gather while I'm out there. So like, I get Like, an amount of something of, you know, whatever, whatever goal of trying to put together, but kind of try to focus on that a little bit more instead of just kind of haphazard haphazardly going out and then seeing something interesting and maybe taking a photograph of it. So. So let's begin to kind of interesting to do. And I'm trying to do that a little bit with the photographs for a lot of the summer, but I'm also trying to get a collection of better, longer video clips that are recorded in sort of a, you know, a professional way or, you know, I want to try and like set it up on a tripod or set it up in a way where it's, it's kind of an easy and steady shot for a longer period of time. And what I hope to do with that is through like a number of the trips, as I kind of move across Oregon, is to gather enough sets of clips of different like landmark locations that I'm later able to use those videos to put together different pieces and different pieces in association with the photographs. But just to kind of show visually in through video, some of the areas, too, so videos not really like what, what I really like putting together what I especially like editing on and I like kind of some of the more specific controls you have over the outcome and the way that a moment looks in the way that you use photography, instead of sort of a longer format system of video that shows you know, a lot of changes to just a single aspect to something over a period of time. So I think it'd be cool, though to, to go out and try and get a bunch of landscape video clips that are long enough to kind of use in sort of a document documentary fashioned for future projects coming up. So kind of fun. But it's also something I haven't really done as much before. So it kind of also reopens a lot of spots that I've maybe grown tired of going to in the past, you know, where I leave, I've gone to a spot for rock or something like that I've been there a number of ties really cool spot really interesting if you haven't been there if you want to walk around or something. But if you go to take photographs of it, it's really cool. And I could probably take a lot more photographs of the place like that, to be honest, but but as it goes, if you think just just a regular photo framed picture, getting kind of tired of that I have a few of those, and I really have a draw to go back there to photograph it. But if I'm doing like a video project, well, I haven't done that before. So it kind of gives me a little bit of inspiration to go there. And to do that with it. Or I think like what it was a couple years ago, when we were working with a GoPro 360 camera, it was interesting, because it was like, well, all these places that I kind of for me like Crater Lake, which really I have not that much interest in. It was like oh, like I should go to Crater Lake, I should make it to that destination. Because I have this tool with me that I normally don't have, or have this, this thing that I normally don't do, like maybe 360 video in that case are now and in this case of, you know, just going around and trying to make like a steady set of like documentary video clips, it's like, well, I haven't done that before. So kind of opens up like every location in the past that I had gone to. And so you can check that off the list, I don't need to go to that waterfall again, I've kind of been there and I've got some cool photos of it. So I'll just go to the next place and kind of head on. And this kind of opens it up a little bit of Well, I'm familiar with these places, I can kind of go through and produce these clips out in a way that's, you know, going to work for me or something. So it's kind of cool, I'm going through and trying to capture some longer clips and stuff it may have video takes a lot longer to do you know, you have to like do a few things you have to really pull over and really study it and shut everything off. Wait for the sounds to be right. You know, if you're in an area where it doesn't doesn't work, right. Like if you're near a road and there's cars or something going by, or whatever it is you just have to make these mitigations to try and make it work you'd have to like get off the road or go further away or set up a better shot or whatever it is you have to kind of like push a little harder. And then to capture it and sort of similar to like long-exposure photography, you just have to like sit there and wait for why you had to wait for the time to elapse for you to capture a minute of footage or four minutes of footage of these, you know, like cattle moving across the field or something like that. So it's kind of fun. Yeah, the stuff that you see and the stuff that you captured. But it also takes like a lot more work to kind of put together those video pieces. But I'm looking forward to it, I want to try and put together some time-lapse work, some sky video, like some sunset stuff or some clouds kind of moving around. I think that's going to be really interesting or especially like with some of the dynamic kind of dramatic cloud textures that you get over in Eastern Oregon during the September and October times a year. I think it'll be kind of cool to try and photograph some of those quickly kind of moving lower cumulus clouds as they sort of kind of swirl and turn and move past on the sky. So going to try and set up some some longer maybe like an hour video or something like that and then set up a time-lapse from that to kind of speed the video up and then make it something where you can kind of see the changes but I'm trying to put together some of those visual elements pretty much as it's like kind of a fun, activity side project thing but Jenna put some of these like visual video elements together. So I have a collection of those kinds of pieces to like, you know I can I was still photograph of a beautiful sunset, say or I got to have a maybe like an interesting time-lapse that sort of shows it, roll through the colors and roll through the cloud formations that it makes. And I'd like to kind of make a couple of those to go in tandem with some of the other pieces of work that I've been trying to put together. So it kind of kind of goes, carries on stuff, but it's a similar stuff I've been up to, I also got some mini DV tapes back, I think I talked about a couple podcasts back, I'd send them off to be converted. And I had a pair of them, I think, two hours of footage, converted from mini DV tape to mp4. And I got a thumb drive mailed back to me, and plugged it in the computer through on the videos, I've been through about 1.5 gigabytes an hour for an mp4 of standard standard def 2005 video from some mini DV camera. And there's a few good ones I got to work with. But I think a lot of the footage is kind of interesting. It's interesting to see, I think I'd like I'd mentioned maybe I recorded over a number of the tapes that I'd use frequently. So I'd record a project or record a couple clips video, none of it very proficient. And then I capture that over to a computer and edit it. And then I blacked out the tape and then record the next project over it. So there's only like some sections of video that probably still remain. And I bet there's probably a lot of cool pieces that I wish I had been able to keep. I think some of the good stuff I do still have. So that's cool. And from what I found already, it's also pretty cool just to see what was there. But yeah, like some few like I think it was like a men's high school basketball game. I think it was a I think there was a soccer game recorded. I think there was like a girls basketball game recorded. I think there was an assembly recorded like a bunch of like high school footage that I had recorded, or that, like other people recorded with me during probably 2005 2006. Wow. Yeah, that's cool. Yeah, so kind of seeing some of that footage. And some of it we'd use for little projects and stuff we're working on. But it's cool to see the raw footage again. And that's kind of fun about being able to pull up those tapes, take them into a place I haven't converted, and then get get to check out the the types of footage that was on it. But yeah, you get to see some cool stuff. I think it was, like I mentioned maybe before I converted some stuff, and I think it was like some somebodies wedding that I converted, you know, I don't have much attachment to it, but I'm sure those people do, you know, they have the video of whatever it was, but it's cool that this raw video exists, I'll maybe I'll reach out to that I reached out to another friend and said, Hey, check out this, check out this video. You know, it's like an hour of stuff back from high school that we thought was probably just gone, you know. So probably, I think for most people it is, and I think most people don't really have like the archivist mentality or the, the the media mentality that that I always do. But it's really fun to have a photo album or have a clip or a set of clips and videos and stuff from when you were younger. And now especially that we're older, I think some of the some of the benefit of kind of keeping keeping hold of some of those things as they come up. It's kind of cool, you know, you get to like, pull up this thing as Oh, wow. Yeah, that was like 15 years ago. No way. That's what it seems like 15 years past he does he like video yourself or video someplace that you're at. It's cool. So I'm happy to be going through and clipping up some of those pieces of video. Pretty fun. And yeah, kinda kind of carry on as I've tried to get a few more of them converted. I think I have like a little box, I probably have maybe somewhere less than eight of these tapes left. And then I think I have a number of tapes that I'm going to try and collect from my, my family to I think they have a few like, you know, like, I don't know, whatever, probably the earlier stuff of like holidays and family events and whatever that stuff was. And all the tapes that I have are just from what I started, you know, back in like the 2000, probably, for maybe the earliest. For photos of maybe like 2002 2003 those video clips go it's probably 2004 2005 that I was really able to get access to some video stuff, at least that you know that like I was focused on I was using kind of on my own. So yeah, it's cool to have those have those tapes around getting converted, get to check out some old footage on it's a little bit expensive. I think it was 25 bucks for the two hours of footage that I got. So it's fine. And it's cool because it's good footage or it's cool to like have these memories and stuff. But it's also weird too. If you spend 25 bucks and you just get a blacked out tape. You know, imagine it was the blank tape and you're like, Oh, cool. So it's been cool. Yeah, kind of pulling up these old pieces and seeing some stuff especially if like your old like home videos or home movies or your wedding or something like that, man, all of those things. Those are really cool memories to have and then istyles you have kind of been able to keep those as is so important. And now that it's so easy to digitize them. We're in a period of time right now. It's easy to digitize them and easy to duplicate that that He's a data out. So you can archive in different locations like a bigger thumb drive, you can put a bunch of media, or you can kind of diversify that and make four thumb drives and keep them in different places, or with different people, you can share with different people, if there's sets of videos that you want to get out of just being siloed. With you, which is sort of where I'm at to, you know, like I recorded a lot of video, I record a lot of photos, and I don't really have to be the the yearbook creator for everyone I've ever met. But I was also thinking, well, it'd be cool to have to kind of get a hold of a couple of people and say, I have this, this video, it's just been archived in a box of mini DV tapes for the last 15 years, I got a copy of it. There's a footage of you for some projects, here's a set of that, or here's some photos from something that happened back in college or whatever it is, you know, some some project or event that we worked at. So all those kind of things are cool to get a hold of, I know I have them. And I know they might have had them at a time but maybe lost interest or don't have many more than So, yeah, it's kind of cool to come upon that stuff, and then be able to set it out and get to look at that stuff. Again, it's cool looking back into the past a little bit with some old video or some old photographs. So it's been kind of fun. But yeah, we're working on that we're gonna have some video conversions and some photo stuff, trying to do some fun writing, I'm trying to rough draft a bunch of stuff, I use voice to text a lot, I use voice to text to like, get a bunch of paragraphs out. And then I use Grammarly. And another site called Hemingway to kind of help me do some editing of that. But then I also go back through and then I try and like write in a bunch of stuff on top of that. And that really seems to like I don't know kind of helps with speed a lot is really the thing that makes a big difference is the speed that I'm able to put out 300 words or 200 words or something like and then kind of restructure that hold of it. So it's a lot better than I was able to do with the bass, that's for sure. So it's kind of fun. Yeah, voice to text just on an iPhone, or you can do it. Even when I'm out camping and stuff. You can you can use it in airplane mode. And I think you have a database of words within the phone that you're able to do voice to text with it's, it's a pretty comprehensive English library, which is cool. It's really fantastic that you're able to do those kinds of techniques. But But yeah, I think it was a campaign, I was able to put down a lot of work, you know, just by voice to text into my phone, like I always have it into the Notes app. And then I have have, you know, like 10 documents ready to go that have 300 word, little essays, or a little rough draft sections set up so that you can go through throw those into an editor, correct the weird mistakes or like some of them, you probably read it, but correct some weird voice to text mistakes, correct some grammar stuff, and then go back through and try and try and edit a couple ideas and make it you know, it's weird to write, like, like, if you just listen to that last sentence, the structure things that you say, or at least the things that I say, seem to be a lot looser than the structure things that you're right. So when you do like a voice to text thing, you tell a story, you make some comment, but you really, I think have to go back through and sort of rearrange it a little bit to make it clear writing at least ideal. I think that's a benefit of people who write allies; they get a better pair of graphic sense of the things that that the point that they need to make and the communication that they have. So thanks a lot for putting up with me. rambling about fires and photos and cabin and mini DV tape conversions. So it's a good time. But I appreciate you guys tuning in to this episode of The Billy Newman photo podcast. You can always do more to see some of my work by checking out Billy Newman. photo.com did I say that? I think I said yeah, yeah, go to billion photo.com. That's, that's I figured you guys remember. Thanks for checking out this episode of the podcast it next week.

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156 Billy Newman Photo podcast mixdown Oregon Wildfires

Hello, and thank you very much for listening to this episode of The Billy Newman photo podcast, recorded for the second week of September 2020. Thanks a lot for listening to this podcast. If you're in the northwest or anywhere on the west coast, and if you're probably anywhere in America, I'm sure you've heard about the wildfires that are going on here in Oregon. And if you're on the west coast, as west of the Cascades, I'm sure you've been inundated with smoke for the last week or so, just about like most of this last week, I think since, like Labor Day, it's been pretty intense here. It's been just smoke all through the valley. And I think smoke all the way down to California. Now, I guess I was just reading that there's smoke that's now Kind of pushed out all the way to Michigan. I think a scene and satellite photos are really interesting satellite imagery. I don't know if you guys have been able to see that. There are also some like time-lapse captures of the satellite imagery. And it's really interesting to Kind of see the changes and how the weather was working during the period of time with those wildfires took off. But as a quick rundown, I'm sure there have been better, better news outlets than I am to give you the rundown of the facts of the fires. But yeah, it seems like it's a historic amount of burn. And just a couple of days. I think they've mentioned that it's now more than 1 million acres have burned, and wildfires created. I think just this week, but I think it's for like the Oregon year-to-date amount. I think they mentioned 2 million acres of burned in California this year. pretty significant burns. I think that's at least for Oregon. I think it was double the amount that they had expected for this year was interesting is that it's all occurred so late. I think I was even captured talking on a podcast about a month ago or so that I was surprised not to see more smoke in the year this year as we were Kind of fortunate to not see, you know, some kind of fire complex build-up somewhere in Oregon, there's always been some circumstances that when you get out to Eastern Oregon, you see smoke in the air on the horizon, you figure it's come from somewhere a lot of the time, like when I was growing up, it came from the southern Oregon area, this is used to seem to catch fire every couple of years. Or it was, you know, somewhere, someplace up in the Cascades, you know, Kind of a remote location is somewhere up in like northeast Oregon that was burning. There's been a few fires every year. But they seem to be like more remote locations. And they seem to start, you know, sometime in late June or early July. And they Kind of carry on through the year. But by this time of year, you know, but by September by Labor Day, right? You think it's it's Kind of shifted into the rainy season, and you're Kind of done with the fires. But for those that have already started, you know, at least like significant burns and problems like that. So I was really surprised to Kind of see it shift over like that. But I remember getting the emergency alert on my phone while the skies were still clear. And I think that was on. Was it like Labor Day on Monday, and I have a weird emergency alert for fire. And like easterly wind, I think that's what they were talking about too. And that's really I think what was significant about it, and what might be under looked a little bit and some of them thought it is reasonable to assume that this is an expression of climate change, it's a little bit of a soft answer to just Kind of claim that this is just a part of climate change generally. And it's Kind of interesting how they do those things. But it's interesting to talk about some of the specifics of how we help some of the things have changed over the last couple 100 years, and it has become more of a dry climate in the northwest than I had been, I think before the 1830s I think if you look back to like the historical record or like this weather records that they keep, like hear about like, like Lewis and Clark coming over, stay in it, you know, up along the Columbia nude record the number of rainy days that the season and it was just you know, like a wild amount of rain that they had all the time. And I think that that that had existed and occurred up into like the 1820s and 30s. And they recorded a pretty significant drop off in the amount of rainfall that was occurring in the area. And I think that that was sort of thing that had happened for what about 500 years is that really talk about like that little ice age that Kind of came on In his little ice age, yeah, I think it was, yeah, the Little Ice Age that came on, like at the end of the Renaissance or something like that, before the Renaissance Is that what it was maybe got warmer than I'm probably mixing it up. But whatever Kind of weather change it was, I think it was recorded for a couple of 100 years, and then it sort of started to lay off. And so on the West Coast over here, I think it started to become a bit more of an arid. Well, not arid climate. But I think just the amount of precipitation per year dropped by a pretty strong amount; I think there was like a little bit of a weather change that had happened; I'm not sure how to what degree that that pace has continued. And then to what degree the manmade climate change issue has increased the ramp-up of that issue, as it's changed the weather patterns over the hundreds of years that it's been occurring. But what's interesting about this moment and this event is that the winds, normally in the West Coast area here, come off the Pacific and then blow eastward. A westerly wind that blows toward the east, and Kind of pushes, you know, just Kind of pushes over the United States. And then off to the side, Okay, I see that through the winter, as every week, every three days, there's sort of some, some high and low-pressure system that sort of cycle of the Pacific Ocean and then blow over the West Coast. And then off, off across the country. And I think, like a lot of time, I think in the wintertime, they call like the Pineapple Express you remember like, like the expression that the movie that had come out a long time ago with like where the West Coast, he gets a lot of rainstorms in the winter, like the Kind of come off the Pacific Ocean, they go over Hawaii or out in the Hawaii area, and then swoop back over from a westerly position and then blowback over the West Coast here. What was interesting about this moment, this position, is that we had like a really strong wind from the east really living here for 30 years now. It's really pretty strange to have a strong wind blowing from the east. It's very rare. And so I think I'm not really quite sure what conditions happened to cause that. But I think it was some higher pressure system that was coming down out of Canada. And I think that when mixed with the cold, I think of the colder air like lower pressure system over here. I think there's a lot of when that started to blow through. But I guess Monday it was just like, a record amount of wind. I'm not really sure that because it was hot. It was hot the whole day. It was like, you know, 91 degrees that day. And I remember hearing, like, in Eugene, there's a bunch of trees that got knocked over. I think on the University of Oregon campus; there's a big, big branch of a tree that hung out over the courtyard there. That broke off, and I think it was in the way. I recognize some spots from when I was living in Eugene, have a couple of areas in new, I suppose with trees I'd walked by in the past that it snapped and then fallen off against the buildings. They're just in the downtown area. So I think they got hit pretty hard with a windstorm. I didn't notice where I am. My family in Southern Oregon definitely mentioned that though I said it was uniquely an unusually strong winds are blowing out of the east on a really hard day. And I think that you know, it's strange to think, but I think that that just that simple change or that blonde from the east over across the dry land probably be in a drier amount of air and then now pushing on fires that had already existed now in a different direction. I think just really, and I don't know, made for a pretty strange and Kind of unique set of circumstances that would create this many burns in such a short amount of time. Just thinking about well, there's no cash assembly phase; it's almost hard to keep track of. I probably won't be a comprehensive list of all the information out there about the fires, but I thought it'd be kind of interesting to just Kind of talk about and do a little rundown of stuff. I think there was a fire in the talent Phoenix area. I woke up to hear about that the next day, but that was pretty interesting. You know, being a person that had grown up in Southern Oregon. I know the Medford area and the talent Phoenix Ashland area pretty well. First I'd heard Yeah, it was a fire that was in Asheville, and I guess it started in Ashland and then had immersions do some other areas as it moved. I guess north of the I five corridor, and I think Kind of fall in a creek. Is it the Alameda Creek I'm not sure? But I think following the I five corridor up toward Medford and it really looked significant. And now seeing some of the damage of some of the whole areas that were burned out. It's It's surprising to see the amount of damage that can happen and burn through and then you know, just be gone. I guess it's like all the fuels are gone. But it's like man, those houses were there and they are not there and it was just all Kind of pushed by the amount of oxygen was coming in from those really strong easterly winds. The really dry conditions. It's probably been, you know, 100 days since we have have had rainfall up here. And I'm sure other another number of other issues that have Kind of occurred with it, but it's interesting about this Phoenix talent fires it just sort of shows outside of outside of forestry conditions or you know problems either with the management of old timber or doing doing controlled burns or whatever it might be the talent Phoenix fire is really an area that's just as you see many pretty civilized you know, it's a pretty normal, you know, Park area, all Mariya it's pretty populated area, it's not out in a national forest system that maybe would have been mismanaged or a wilderness area where they weren't able to go in set up roads or you know, fire lines in the same way that they would have in another area. So in this this talent Phoenix fire what you really get to recognize is just the amount of bad conditions that the fire was able to grow in or you will I guess positive conditions for the fire stick but bad bad for our whole population of the town the talent Phoenix fires part of it and then I think there's another fire that's I think even bigger that was spotted I think, you know, like heat rises hot air rises with hot coals and flames and sparks and stuff as you can imagine from the campfires and stuff rise up in that heat and then blow over in a big fire like what we had started to experience national talent Phoenix I think there was some some sparks that had gone over the hillside like a travel like a long way along with the smoke dropped in and started another fire over the shady Cove area and that is now burned a significant amount of land maybe I maybe have this mixed up or something but but i think i think we've also now arrested a person in connection with the talent Phoenix fire as who a person who was starting was starting a set of fires around houses. His weird story, I don't have all the facts on that. It seems like it would have been I think it was a person who probably lived on the street, unsure of how they've got the motivation to perform those actions. I don't know if it was just a chaos move or if they were like an asset of someone else who was trying to organize it more but yeah, it's just seems like such a weird, weird idea. I guess a fire it already started. But those two quickly merged and then continue to burn through talent Phoenix and South Medford I think I know some people that that had to evacuate their houses, I suppose. Like the regions are probably still safer. Okay. But I think that, but yeah, there's a large number of people that had to evacuate from that fire location also a lot of people in the Shady Cove area that had evacuated from their houses that's pretty crazy. And I think they're still still dealing with that I think they were able to get some of it contained. But I think there's still amounts of it that are not contained and it's still just down down so yeah, wild amount of smoke down there really happy that more fires didn't pop off in the hillsides of stuff there you know, like there's a lot of land kind of in the skews as you get south of Ashland on my five as you go up there and surprise some of that stuff didn't get caught on fire too but interesting though Yeah. If there's like an arsonist started the started a couple of these fires here in the Phoenix area that that's pretty wild. And yeah, crazy conditions the wind and the hot weather and the lack of rain that the probably just really allergy I mean, just obviously I guess like self evidently now. It was pretty bad conditions. And definitely fire spread quickly. So I'm not really sure about the rest of the information about the tower Phoenix fire, but there's still Kind of more stuff coming out all the time. I'm not sure but the damage assessor when people are going to get back to the houses to see what's there and what's not there. But for places that were taken out, it's pretty significant. really surprising. I woke up to find out the news. I was by the time Phoenix talent were already gone. So like a tune into a live stream of a newscast down there. kayo bi channel five, and I was watching the NBC stream. I think it's a new stream, NBC. It was a girl who was out there she had a tripod set up for a man on the street, I guess person on the street interview and they were at up a Burger King, Burger King Size in the back. And beside her where the burger king should be his smoldering rubble. And that was the visual that they gave us. She tilted the tripod around and viewed I think this smoke coming off the creek which was pretty heavily burned and then I think I saw like another I think video that was I was going around on Twitter that had been posted of someone kind of panning across the creek and tree line and it was just engulfed in flames as it was Kind of spreading up and traveling pretty quickly down toward toward downtown South Medford. Well, so yeah, that's all pretty crazy now. That's nothing moving on. Well, I mean, that's, that's a pretty significant one. That's Kind of why I led with that one. There's probably no order for me right now. But the Blue River vitta area is now wiped out, I think, pretty totally is what I hear still pretty locked off. That's on highway 126 as you're leaving Eugene going out to Springfield. And I think that's sort of like the North route that you would take over and out there plenty of times past that area. I think that's like a pie around like the cougar reservoir and the hot springs that are out there. I'm not sure if that caught on fire. I know that there's a covered bridge that's up there. I believe there's a few covered bridges. And I believe that it's that maybe that one or two of them may have been lost. This is probably no-no and I don't know I think I was going off of an earlier report that was mentioning that they projected that they would lose all the covered bridges however, I did see a picture where I think that that that one covered bridge you pass on highway 26 as you're driving up past Blue River and vieta I think that one's still is there that one was spared which is great but there was burns heavily on both sides of the river along the Mackenzie River in that valley there and just made a lot of significant burning all through that section. I'm interested to try and find out and see a better and more clear visual of the damage that's occurred out there I think it's it's also Kind of confusing there's still like a lot of haze literally like there's just still so much smoke and concrete all you see is just wreckage and it's almost unrecognizable. It's Kind of weird, you know, your mind gets in there it's like I I don't recognize that, you know, you see a picture of some area reported to be like a boat ramp or a lodge or something or you know, some someone's house or car lot or something out there. And I think I probably driven past it. And I went 26 some time in the past but totally unrecognizable in the haze and the smoke of just a burned-out area you see just Kind of curled wreckage that looks like of cars that got caught on fire. And bikes are those chairs, materials, whatever, whatever was able to still stand But really most everything is just wiped to the ground as it was for a house. So yeah, Blue River. And a lot of a lot of that areas is wiped out pretty heavily. I think maybe Mackenzie bridge, got out of it. Okay, but I think there's a lot of damage out there and pass that area. And it's a real shame that happened right through there. I think I was also here to that for all of these where the trees got really heavily burned out along the sides of the highway. I think they're gonna have to cut a lot of that timber down. And I guess because those trees become unstable as they burned out into the core, and then they'll topple over in the wintertime as snow comes down as also hearing that there's going to be an increased risk of mudslides through the winter season now, as we've had a significant burn a lot of exposed land and ash and stuff is going to get wet and then I guess breakaway and come down here. There's like a risk of mudslides after big forest fires like that, especially on the steep draws and right where there's a bunch of highway traffic. Nice. Yeah, we haven't really had that Kind of experience before. Like I was thinking about the biscuit complex fire on the calamy ops as wilderness that occurred first in 2002. While these firsts for me, I think there's fires in the past are out there, but a real significant portion of that whole forest area burned in 2002. I think I was probably in eighth grade or something like that. And that was a big fire. I think that burned for the whole summer I saw that and the sky and that was out in the wilderness areas are pretty distant out. I think I was saying that in the calamity opsis wilderness, it would be like west of cave junction, that area in South West, Oregon. And I can see that see it really clear in the sky all through the summer for 2002. Down there in Southern Oregon. And then I think later in 2013. There was also another fire hour maybe just a couple years ago now. There was another really significant fire out on the the other section of the calamity offices that had not burned the first time in 2002. And I think that also burned and that was a really significant significant fire to the thing. They fought that for months. I think it burned for a long time. I think it spread for a long time. And that I think finally grew to somewhere around a million acres or something like that. It was a really significant and large area that burned. Now it really interesting just in a day. I think they talked for the last like four days or something like we've reached Are our mounts of like a million acres burned some of those fires had been going I guess since like the middle of August, and they've just been Kind of progressing slowly then with this significant weather change the easterly winds coming coming off the I guess the dry middle of the country land dad just lit those fires change the wind and now we're in the situation that we see ourselves in now. So Blue River fire talked about that one a bit just a little bit man a lot of wild stories out of that one a lot a lot of significant damage a lot of stuff that we're gonna notice for a long time. Now further north as we Kind of go up outside of the Salem area in the I think the cncm River Canyon area the towns of Lions have gates and I think up through Detroit are pretty well burned and wiped out a lot of significant damage up there as well. Bennett through the Detroit area the Detroit Lakes Area heard about some people trying to get out of there and escape that and it sounded pretty harrowing even Lyons which is really quite close to this the Salem area it seems I think there's some pretty pretty harrowing stories of people trying to leave or trying to get their family out and yeah, that sounds sounds pretty crazy up there. I don't really understand the whole reality of of the fires and the situation and the results and the consequences of it. Yeah. Big vibe. I think that one's connecting now with the fire that's on the Clackamas side as it goes down toward esta Qaeda Malala. And as it comes into a section of my I suppose it's not you know, it's like almost like Oregon City and like Lagos where you go in that area put on notice as being you know, in a fire zone, I think I think it's the way that the district works for how they set up their like regional fire map but but I think like areas as far north that are as far up toward Portland is like Oregon City were put on notice, I think level one notice of be ready to evacuate, but areas like Molalla as the Qaeda, few of those other towns that are out in that area out in those fields, and then as it goes up into the hills toward the Clackamas river got really significantly burned. And I think a lot of people have to leave for that. So that's pretty wild. That one was like I think both the ones around like the Santiam River area and the Clackamas river area were both really pretty significant. And that's going to be kind of a weird one to see the recovery from also also out in Lincoln city out in Lincoln City, Oregon, right on the coast on the one on one I think on like the north side of Lincoln city there was a forest fire that it started not sure if these that one was related to arson or not I think they they had mentioned or maybe there's another smaller fire that I think was caught and put out that was that was from an arsonist or I don't know if it's an RS is maybe but but some some irresponsible behavior that was caught and put out like I've noticed, like some deliberate use of fireworks being reported. I've also noticed like a lot of reports that are saying that that's that sound like grand scheme or organized conspiracy of something that's going on which would you would think after your uni like it's, it's something that will cross your mind FTSE the amount of damage that occurred so quickly. It's kinda interesting to see like the number of fires We're sorry, but yeah, this Lincoln City Fire put a good section of the city of Lincoln City on notice to evacuate. Really, I think pretty scary. I think like there's a level three go now notice for a significant amount of the Northern Lincoln City area. And then the South section, I think it was like oh, level two and level one alert to be ready to leave. So pretty spooky weekend. Yeah, man or like is like Labor Day, Labor Day week and the week following it just like a pretty pretty wild thing where Yeah, good conception of the the Cascade Mountains burned. And that's where we're getting the smoke that's like sitting really heavily on us over here on the west coast. As you look at the satellite images, how it's really pushed out, sort of strangely over the West Coast over the Pacific Ocean, you see this big swirl of brown smoke that used to be, you know, a million acres of Oregon timber and houses and everything else that that went up in smoke and then it's now out over the Pacific Ocean swirling around and then I think it's waiting for another pressure system or you know, another other weather system to move through. I think it's gonna start pushing all that smoke back back over us and then back out toward the east as they are mixed in with the rest of the atmosphere over the rest of the time, but I think it should start Kind of blowing out maybe over this next week. kind of depends on how long this this weather pattern stays with. I suppose by the time this podcast comes out, we should already be seeing a bit of improvement and some more. Some more westerly wind blowing, I think it's already Kind of shifted to be a little bit more westerly, but I think we're supposed to be getting a little bit of a change, I think we're supposed to get some clouds and some rain coming Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, a little bit, I think Kind of put in there, but I was looking to change the rain during the day have been at least a couple of those days, like a pretty high percentage chance that we're gonna get some rainfall. So it'd be late probably, but at least we'll be in the right direction of the Kind of stuff that will help the firefighters out there working right now help contain and put away the forest fire stuff that we've got going on. But, man, so I'm sure there's a number of fires that I've missed talking about. I know there's like another whole other set of complexes in California that have been really destructive, and really significant. I'm looking at the smoke and the fire damage of some of the areas that have been down there around like Lake Berryessa, Oroville. They're like any other. There's a lot of areas out there. I think they're talking about 2 million acres. Others may be mentioned earlier, 2 million acres of burn damage this year recorded in 2020. I think that's twice the average. Now here in Oregon, 1 million acres burned, which is a pretty significant amount. Also, if you Kind of think of maybe California being, you know, three, three times Oregon size or something you take, you know, three Oregon's Kind of stacked each other seems like that'd be about what it would take to Kind of fill up the length of California on the Pacific coastline there. But the million acres man pretty quick to get to that number. I know we had some burns already this year, some other fires and stuff. But man that's been like we have had this last week. So that was pretty crazy how quickly moved and really, really significantly, like how destructive it was, again, there's acreages that burn but it seems like some of those have just been out in pretty pretty remote areas for a long time now, this is pretty significant is it being in a number of the highway, like the valley and river draws that are out there and also like the near near like the populated sections, I mean, Medford, the Springfield, Eugene area, the Salem area, and the Portland area, all experienced pretty significant fires right along their their highway that cuts up into the Cascades. And I guess we were pretty fortunate here in the Corvallis, Albany area to be spared. up outside of the you know, there wasn't any fire up on that draw. So, at least in essence, like we're a little bit further away from some of the significant heightened Red Alert circumstances that are going on right now. But yeah, it'd be a weird week for probably most people you know, I was looking at like one of the reports, and 10% of Oregon is forced to evacuate I think those numbers were a little bit off or stretched and then they kind of later came out and said, Oh, yeah, like the calculations probably really only around somewhere around 100,000 or maybe 150,000 people that were required to evacuate. And then I think it was probably around 500,000 people that were about to or were supposed to be on notice to get things ready to leave. I think it was if you if you can predict Clackamas. And Washington County or like is it started like Kind of skewed up toward toward Portland and a little closer to Salem. I think if if either of those districts went from Well, if they either dropped into a level level one alert of you, no gifts, get your stuff get ready to go. I think that would have been well into the 500,000 area. I guess just given as how concentrated the populations here in Oregon are toward the Portland area, the Salem and then the Eugene area and so it's it's all those areas were hit also with with I think all of Medford I think it was like you know, 80,000 people there, put on the list of female figures out and get ready to go somewhere. Every go to the fair. Everybody go to the Jackson County Fairgrounds, all 82,000 people I was reading another thing, classic Jackson County style. Everybody leave Jackson County go to the Jackson County Fairgrounds? Well, okay, it's still pretty close to just about everything going on. But at least it's at the north end of the Medford area, and it's Kind of away from the shady Cove White City stuff that was going on, you can get out there, okay. And then there are 100 beds and some blankets and those will be kept for those people who are elderly or ill. And then your shelter that you receive is to lay on the ground. That was, I think a quote from one of the emergency response people is you can come and have a spot on the ground to lay, but hey, it's shelter. And I thought Wait a second. That's not shelter that's laying on the ground. Hmm, so Kind of classic for Jackson County Emergency Response to, I guess, be overwhelmed, let's say, and I'll guess I grant him that during this time as a bunch of the town is destroyed. So it's gonna be pretty wrecked for a long time and 2020 it's great if one thing doesn't do it to you another thing Well, good times here so yeah, September 2020 the fires in Oregon, just some of the information and experience and stuff that I've been having from here where I've been I've been trying to Kind of stay in so I had plans right like, you know, I can only talk about where I'm camping or where I'm traveling where I want to go and I Kind of wanted to do that on this one. I think I was gonna go out to the coast and then head down to California and I ended up Kind of scrapping all that stuff as it was very smoky and unhealthy to really go anyway, I thought about like Kind of trying to travel out east a little bit further really looking at the satellite map the smoke bath and air quality stuff just about everywhere out to Montana is affected to some degree I think it's better in a lot of places but it's not like a quick drive out and I'll be I'll be out of the blue skies maybe if I found a couple spots but it's pretty far so I was gonna wait for this to Kind of pass or shift up a little bit to get a little bit more of a sense of what's under control and what's not and also there's a lot of highways here that are closed down you know, like I mean there's sections probably all over the state where there's a section a highway that shut down or where it's impossible in some spot so it's all I think pretty strange right now so it's Kind of open for that all to settle down a little bit and for things to get figured out a little bit and then I was gonna try and take off again and maybe do do some more moving around them but yeah for the last couple days have been Kind of holding tight and narrowly trained to dry around much at all really specifically because the air quality you know I went I went down a couple days ago to run some errands and stopped to get a coffee a spot that I go to normally came up to the window It was early in the morning and came to the window it said closed due to air quality and I thought well I don't blame them but yeah it's like wow the fires all the smoke in town that particular I think when you look at the the air particulate it's like Portland Oregon is the the number one worst air quality city in the world right now. I think above Jakarta and Indonesia above where is it is a Beijing? That's better air quality. Somewhere in China has bad air quality, and apparently, I had hoped guys pretty bad, guys. I bet it sucks over there a lot of these days of the year. But yeah, I guess it's supposed to be like the worst air quality in the world. If you look at the way that that scale goes instead of it's been like up above 300 a lot. Yikes. Yeah, like in the extremely unhealthy ranges, the worst, worst smoke and like worst amount of smoke all over the West Coast that I've ever really remembered. or seen. I mean, there's been a few days where the weather changed it was Kind of bad held the smoke low in the valley that normally been off for most of the summer but but held some smoke out really low in the valley in Southern Oregon, you could drive out of Southern Oregon, you know in a northern Oregon here and be fine be up in the sun and there'd be some smoke, but it wouldn't be a big deal. But down there and so in Oregon now you could have visibility of, you know, a few 100 feet or something like a quarter mile or something like that if it was a good part of the day. But it was like that for a few days. And then finally the wind shifted and Kind of pulled up out of the valley and wasn't socked in anymore. But But this Yeah, this is the most socked in and most Kind of long term stretch of heavy smoke that I've ever seen and met all over the West Coast like Canadian border down to California, smoked in weird weather. So I'm really hoping that it Kind of starts to figure itself out really happy that a bunch of people are out there trying to work on it stuff, so we'll see if it starts to get better shift into a more controlled environment in the mid and later September. But appreciate you guys checking out this episode of the building Newman photo podcast I guess all all encompassing the forest fire situation that's occurred last week, but thanks for Kind of listened to it. I know it's Kind of law and facts and stuff. And I'm sure there's a lot of better, better locations for you guys to find some of the specific details. I think I was getting some some good stuff out of the Oregonian. A lot of this specific small-town Kind of local papers have been difficult to get good information from like I was mentioned in like the Southern Oregon like the Medford paper not many good photos or videos or articles about things that are important and doesn't really give you like a good sense of what was going on. Like I was like I think the mail Tribune or like I was mentioning the local NBC ABC and CBS affiliates there. Were doing local reporting on it. A lot of those stories really weren't very good or weren't well structured. And I think I Kind of left out some of the information that would have been good to have it. As part of an overview, some good specifics of information about developments of each case that are going on so you can Kind of get some more information from there. But, man, I'm sure everybody's everyone's attention has been glued to it for the last week. So I hope everybody is holding in there and doing okay, and man, I'm sorry if I may have actually like, actually evacuated and most people my family had to evacuate. It's Kind of crazy. I think they're okay, but man, we're a couple weeks. So go to Billy Newman photo calm. If you want to check out some more information or get in contact with me. I think there's a couple ways you can do it there. If you have any questions or comments about what we've been talking about, or you want to know more about some of the stuff that I'm up to, I put together a 360 video playlist that I think is available on YouTube, you can go straight there to youtube.com forward slash Billy Newman photo. Or you can go to my website. This is what I put together as a playlist link that's there in the grid icons on that front page, you click on 360, it'll take you to a playlist of 360 videos that we're captured around Oregon. Kind of shown some landscape stuff and all that so yeah, collection of those videos put together curated up posted to the front page of the Billy Newman photo.com website. You can check it out there. Anyway, thanks a lot. All this information but the smoke by experience. Fires for the second week of September 2020 fishing everyone listening. I hope you guys have a great day. Bye