Can we be normal about AI for a minute? Because most conversations about AI seem to skip right past the nuance.

In this episode, we're adding THE GRAIN Podcast to our playlist. Hosted by Toronto-based creative strategist and director Ronit Novak, the show explores how AI is changing creativity, culture, and the human experience through thoughtful conversations with artists, technologists, journalists, educators, and more.

Today, we're listening to Ronit's conversation with artist and designer Marian Bantjes, who started experimenting with AI when generative tools first became widely available. Together, they explore questions about creativity, authorship, originality, and what happens when AI becomes less of a tool and more of a creative collaborator.

If you're curious about AI, art, or how technology is reshaping the way we create, this episode will give you plenty to think about.

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