Fortean artist, writer, thinker, and podcast personality Red Pill Junkie drops in for a freewheeling discussion about a variety of subjects, chief among them UFOs. He and AP talk about those numinous saucers in relation to politics and culture, in terms of art, and humor, and how they relate to consciousness in a world increasingly drawn to "AI".

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