Chatted with Sagan for awhile while he was on a long drive to a meeting. Business bitch shit. Since skating and Odd Future defined the zeitgeist when I was 16, we discussed those origin stories and what those times were like a decade ago. Working at Diamond, meeting those guys, touring, taking photos, etc, etc! We discuss him pivoting out of those OF days and defining himself in the many industries he creates in. You'll hear about new projects he's working on, including his new wheel company "AM-FM" which will be launching in June! I always have the utmost respect for people that take a leap of faith in creative/business outlets and want to put on for the people they care for. Much love to Sagan, word!