In this episode, Kevin and Paul talk about techniques they use to get out of a funk.

It’s an interesting episode that gets interrupted by fire alarms and takes an interesting turn discussing relationships.

Highlights from this episode include:

• Kevin reveals the challenges he’s had this season
• “We need the downs to feel the ups”
• Morning routines. Small little actions, making the bed, washing the dishes.
• 20-minute chunks. The small little action gets you rolling
• “Believe it, till you see it”
• Matthew McConaughey and prayer & meditation techniques Paul and Kevin use.
• A clarification over the pronunciation of “sudoku”