Donald Trump will be the next president of the United States. And based on his first turn as president and his rhetoric in the campaign, we know that he and his cronies are a clear and present danger to our most basic freedoms and to democracy itself.

So what does that mean for the ACLU, as an organization dedicated to defend people’s civil liberties? And what does it mean for the ACLU of Pennsylvania, as an organization that is largely working at the state and local level?

To talk through what’s ahead in challenging the incoming Trump administration, we hear from Mike Lee, executive director of the ACLU-PA, and Vic Walczak, ACLU-PA’s legal director.

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