In this episode I have on Tanner Boyle the author of the Fortean Influence on Science Fiction as well as the author of the Getting Spooked substack! You can also find him on twitter @TannerFBoyle1 In this episode we discuss the intelligence asset Bosco Nedelcovic who made a number of interesting claims that pertain to the stories of early abductees. Tanner also dives into his connections to The Finders cults, eugenicist groups and the counter-culture. We also discuss the story of the first American abductee Gerry Irwin and what his experience illustrates about the truth of other abductee experiences such as that of Betty and Barney Hill. Tanner and I in this episode dive into the question of whether or not the experiences of abductees and contactees is really extraterrestrial in origin or if it is more likely that these people were victims of intelligence agency operations and human experimentation along MKULTRA kind of lines. We also discuss the mainstreaming of Ufology with everyone from the New York Times to Tucker Carlson platforming the ideas of UFOs and aliens. We also discuss what the purpose and utility is for the intelligence agencies and the National Security State in propping up a certain narratives concerning UFO's and aliens. And stay tuned for the next installment of our conversation where we get into the Adamski affair and the Manhattan Project scientist who is actually incredibly based and sheds some light on how Abductions as intelligence agency ops as well as whether or not Tanner and I belive in aliens, aliens as Djinn/demons and much more.This conversation was so much fun, and I think you all will love it as much as I do!Tanner F. Boyle | SubstackThe Fortean Influence on Science Fiction - McFarland (mcfarlandbooks.com)Music:Sacred Space - Guided by VoicesTry to Find You - Guided by VoicesCynthia - Blue Rodeo
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