"It's not about simple cause and effect. You can put in place all the right conditions to grow beans, and then they start growing and there's a sense of pride. Then you come in one day and realize 'Oh no! Deer have eaten everything."

Gideon Culman is the founder and owner of K Street Coaching, host of his own podcast, Where Genius Grows, and an amateur gardener. He talks to Wendy about using gardening as a prism for making sense of complexity in the world.