An incredible episode with Giles Campbell and Kelan Ryan, owner and team member of The Motus Projects. In the first half of the episode Giles and Kelan actually interview me for their Podcast (The Motus Prodcast) and in the second half the roles reverse and I interview them. We speak about what it means to be a director, a business owner, mental health and so much more.

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