Gina’s a force of nature online and off, and it was such a pleasure to talk to her about everything she’d achieved over the last few years. After 18 months of solid campaigning, this January Gina succeeded in making upskirting a criminal offence. She’d been upskirted herself at a Killers gig in the summer of 2017 and learned then that what had happened to her was not a specific offence. She shared a facebook post about it which went viral, before a petition was launched to have her case reopened. It gained so much traction that, along with lawyer Ryan Whelan, she was eventually able to bring a private members’ bill backing the creation of a specific law to make upskirting an offence. It clearly was not easy, particularly when the bill was blocked in the Commons by Conservative MP Sir Christopher Chope – a moment which Gina talks about really movingly in this episode – but she didn’t back down and eventually she achieved what she set out to. We talk about how she did what she did, how pop culture was a port in the storm for her through the worst moments, and how she harnessed it to serve the campaign.