Ellie and Jeni decided to podcast in person while on vacation! 

They discuss the Britney Spears and Kevin Federline videos, leading them into a conversation about parenting. Jeni tells Ellie of a recent incident where she was hard on her son about laziness. 

The girls also talk about Anne Heche’s tragic death. They do not see eye to eye with Ellen, and each shares their opinion. 

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