If you've followed this show for any length of time, you have heard the team talk about this episodes very special guest whom we are low-key obsessed with. Now you get to listen in real time as Andy and Tiziana do their level best to play it cool in front of their favorite social media superstar and co-host of the Data Over Dogma podcast, bible scholar Dr. Dan McClellan. We talk with Dan about all kinds of issues, ranging from Dan's special area of study (the cognitive science of religion) to pop culture references (the wolfman has nards).

If you like this episode and want more information on Dan's books, scholarly articles, available classes, or social media accounts check him out here https://linktr.ee/maklelan

If you'd like to listen to the interview Rick and Tiziana did with Dan, check that out here https://rss.com/podcasts/burrosofberea/1764363/