Refreshed from their summer, Tom and Clancy talk about the advantages, pitfalls and realities of a focus on leadership resilience inside organisations. Tom worries that in the wrong hands and organisational culture it could be putting the mental health agenda back; Clancy endeavours to suggest what it could be, they play a bit of tennis to discuss what makes them resilient and then special guest Bill Lawry from www.ascend.world adds valuable perspective and a free offer to listeners. This episode is bursting with hints and tips on resilience!

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