He wasn’t tall. He wasn’t big. There wasn’t anything imposing about this athlete physically.

Joe Theismann was doubted through high school, college, right into his CFL and NFL days.

But the man never lacked bravado. This quarterback was fueled by true belief.

Here on the Go Long Pod, I chatted with the Washington Redskins great at length about his truly unique rise from South River, N.J. to Heisman Trophy runner-up, College Football Hall of Famer, 1982 Super Bowl Champion and 1983 NFL MVP. Theismann was as tough as nails, too, in starting 163 straight games — quite a feat considering his prison-rules era of football.

Topics discussed include…

* One brutal, tough-love lesson from his father.

* How he won the job at Notre Dame. Upon arrival in South Bend, Theismann was one of 13 quarterbacks.

* The day he pissed off Don Shula.

* Power of “mental toughness.” Call it spite or pride — Theismann says he was obsessed with proving people wrong.

* How he started 163 straight games. Theismann recalls the time Ted Hendrickson dropped him on his head.

* What made his 1983 Redskins historic to this day.

* Why he believes in Commanders quarterback Jayden Daniels.

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Full transcript:

Miss our three-part series on the harrowing journey of Dolphins tight end Julian Hill? All links are here:

* Part I: Underworld

* Part II: Rescued

* Part III: Destiny

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