In this podcast episode, I welcome Gleb Bahmutov, Senior Director of Engineering at Mercari. We talk about about Gleb's engineering experience at Cypress.io and Mercari US, discuss the testing pyramid and why it makes little sense, and talk about what we can use instead.

Here's what we talk about:

• Gleb's story with Cypress.io
• Testing pyramid makes little sense; what can we use instead? Gleb's talk at the TestJS Summit
• Why is the testing pyramid shapes this way?
• Testing matrix vs testing pyramid
• The cost of bugs and how to set boundaries within teams

We hope you enjoy the show!

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In each episode of Semaphore Uncut, we invite software industry professionals to discuss the impact they are making and what excites them about the emerging technologies.