In this episode of The Intelligent Investing Podcast, Eric Schleien and Glenn Surowiec discuss the Index Investing Bubble as well as discuss General Electric (GE) which has been going through a massive restructuring.

Glenn manages SMA's through GDS Investments which he founded in 2012. From 2001 to 2012, he worked for Alsin Capital Management, Inc. as an equity research analyst (2001-2003), co-portfolio manager (2003-2008), and portfolio manager (2008-2012). Before joining ACM, Glenn worked for Enron Corp. as a derivatives structuring manager, and for Commerce Bancorp (now TD Bank) as a real estate credit analyst.

​He currently serves as an advisory board member of Value Conferences, an online-only conference featuring some of the most prestigious value investors across the globe.

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Disclosure: Eric's firm Granite State Capital Management manages SMA's. None of his clients own GE stock. That could always change in the future without notice.

 

Contact Glenn Surowiec
Glenn can be reached by email: glenn@gdsinvestments.com OR he can be reached via his website.

You can read Glenn's most recent letter to his investors, here.

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#70: Glenn Surowiec; Index Investing Bubble; General Electric

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#174: Triple Net Lease Investing Secrets with Ben Kogut

In today's episode, I sit down with my buddy Robbie Kramer to discuss the ultimate value investment, relationships. Last week, I had the pleasure discussing investing on his show. You can listen to the episode, here. If you prefer to watch it on YouTube, you can watch the episode, here.
The most important relationship you'll ever invest in is probably who you end up marrying. Choosing quality romantic partners is Robbie Kramer's specialty. It was an absolute joy to sit down with him and chat all things relationships, romance, and dating.
 
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Show Notes
[00:01:18] Marrying the right person
[00:02:35] People who are successful in their careers yet stunted in their relationships
[00:10:05] Common Mistakes Men Make
[00:13:07] Instagram and Online Dating
[00:14:53] Three Prompts for Dating Profiles
[00:19:56] Socially Awkward Men
[00:22:29] “...Some of these guys are worth a hundred million dollars, running big funds, very wealthy. Social, but either they're still single or they have a wife who they're pretty much like in an emotionally abusive relationship, like they're just not happy. If they're very honest with themselves, they're not happy with their romantic life, and that stuns me how you could be actually fairly socially incompetent.”
[00:23:35] Unhappy Relationships
[00:24:51] Social Freedom Exercises
[00:27:41] The Wealthy Executive Who Hides Behind Masks
[00:33:14] Optimizing your life
Links From The Episode
Profile Prompts
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Get In Touch With Robbie Kramer
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Inner Confidence
The Leverage Podcast
 
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#173: The Ultimate Value Investment - Robbie Kramer

Summary
In this episode, I break down the current paradigm for shareholder activism, speak to the new model that I invented which is vastly superior both in results and reliability. We discuss the myth of "if it can't be measured, it doesn't exist", the myth around "soft skills", and how people often ask the wrong questions or measure the wrong stuff due to perverted influences by HR departments.
If you're interested in more discussion of the new model for shareholder activism I developed, see the following links below:
A New Model For Shareholder Activism (Podcast)
The Proxy Activism Project
A New Model For Shareholder Activism (Blog)
A New Model For Shareholder Activism (YouTube)
A New Model For Shareholder Activism (Eric Schleien / John King)
Netflix, Sears, and Tribal Leadership (Eric Schleien / John King)
How To Keep Large Companies Innovative (Eric Schleien / Scott Forgey)
Eric Schleien discussing Tribal Leadership
Eric Schleien discussing Activist Investing
CBRE Case Study – Tribal Leadership
Comparing Transformational & Transactional Leadership (Eric Schleien)
Cultural Issues In The Hospital Industry (Eric Schleien)
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#172: The New Model For Shareholder Activism; The BS Myth Around ”Soft Skills”; Measuring The Wrong Stuff

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Summary
I received this email last year about Trupanion and wanted to address some points made. The entire email is here:
Hi Eric,
 
I come in peace as a Chester County native who still very much prefers Wawa over Sheetz, despite living in Pittsburgh. You seemed very open to hearing counterpoints, as per your podcast on TRUP, so I wanted to give you some things to chew on. 
 
You made two points (I'll summarize): 1) It is justifiable to exclude development expenses from IRR and 2) there are "no accounting shenanigans" going on. 
 
I would love, then, to hear your thoughts on the following:
 
Let's first level set with the IRR methodology: the company allocates fixed expenses between Subscription and Other based on their relative revenue contributions. This includes a pro-rata allocation of G&A expenses. 
 
So let's get into G&A expenses -- what's in there? Typical back office stuff, finance, accounting, etc. But also a couple million bucks of rental income related to subleasing of the company HQ. Per their 2019 10-K: "The change was primarily due to a $3.1 million increase in compensation expenses, a $0.8 million increase in professional service fees, and a $1.5 million increase in depreciation expense mainly due to owning our home office building since August 2018, partially offset by a total of $2.6 million in savings from additional lease income and less rental expense."
 
The rental income has the effect of reducing reported G&A (i.e. it's netted against expenses). So my first question for you is as follows: if you firmly believe development expenses that aren't related to acquiring new pets are justifiably excluded from IRR calculations, how are you comfortable with several million dollars of sublease income that's clearly not related to acquiring subscription pets benefitting IRR?
 
Next up is their pet-food VIE. Also from the 10-K: The Company has also entered into a series of agreements to provide ancillary services to the variable interest entity at cost. The Company provided $1.2 million and $1.4 million of these services for the years ended December 31, 2020 and 2019, respectively, which were recorded against its operating expenses.
 
So TRUP provides back office support to the VIE and reduces its reported opex to account for the compensation for providing the services. 
 
So the next question is the same as the first: Would you bucket this in line with "development expenses" as being rightly excluded from IRR, or are you OK with the company getting the tailwind from the expense reduction?
 
Now here's where the situation becomes a bit more nefarious. The VIE has received a total of $9.5 million of funding from TRUP, including $7.0MM of preferred capital and $2.5MM from a line of credit. Think for a minute about what's going on here: the company pushed $9.5MM of cash down to another legal entity, and now reduces its reported OpEx for services provided to the VIE, with the payments being made with money TRUP used to finance the VIE. Money coming out of one pocket and right into the other. 
 
Third question: Do you think this is an accounting shenanigan?
 
Lastly, management knows PAC is getting out of hand and pulled a fast one in the first quarter to make it look like they've got things under control. Aren't you the slightest bit curious how they're going to hold PAC at $280 for the balance of this year in an increasingly competitive environment?
 

Management casually slipped in the following comment during the earnings call: "We expect stock-based compensation to be around $6-$7 million per quarter for the remainder of the year." Coupled with the $8.4 million of SBC already booked in 1Q'21, TRUP is on track t

#171: Rebuttal To Some Trupanion Hate $TRUP; Discussing the Toxicity Of Twitter $TWTR

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Show Notes
1:06 - What is Westell (WSTL)?
2:24 - Estimating liquidation value
3:07 - A simplified approach to finding high quality net-net stocks
3:55 - The 5G rollout
5:10 - Potential catalyst
5:26 - Dark Companies; The new SEC rule
8:57 - Westell quarterly update

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#70: Glenn Surowiec; Index Investing Bubble; General Electric

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