"Glow," in its second season, showed us what the show-within-a-show actually looks like. Which made Liz and Ben ponder their own behind-the-scenes process, in a very special episode of VGTVP.

GLOW, And Talking About Making a Show: Episode 170

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TV & Film

It's the last episode of Very Good TV Podcast, so Liz and Ben use the occasion to say goodbye... and, of course, talk about series finales. Do not fear — one last time, both "The X-Files" and "The Leftovers" come up.

The Series Finale: Episode 214

We don't want to talk about it. Except we do. Liz and Ben will dearly miss HBO's iconoclastic comedy about American politics, for all of its nuances and all of its outrageousness.

We'll Miss You, VEEP: Episode 213

It's a Very Good TV Podcast first: An Oscar winner as a special guest! Also, Liz and Ben LEFT THE OFFICE to visit Adam McKay at his home in Los Angeles, where we got into McKay's role behind the scenes on HBO's "Succession." Secrets are revealed! Laughs are enjoyed! Fun is had!

Talking SUCCESSION with Adam McKay! Episode 212

For five seasons, Fox's "Gotham" delivered a twisted take on DC favorites, and Liz and Bn aren't afraid to take a moment and pay tribute to what the show did so very very well.

We'll Miss You, GOTHAM: Episode 211

No spoilers for GAME OF THRONES Season 8, Episode 2 here! Instead, Liz and Ben examine the GOT season premiere, and how serialized storytelling enables episodes of television that don't actually have any story. (Shockingly, both THE X-FILES annnnnnd THE LEFTOVERS come up!)

GLOW, And Talking About Making a Show: Episode 170

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