Kristin Smith is Executive Director of the Blockchain Association, which advocates for crypto policy in DC—an exhausting effort that Sam Bankman-Fried was closely involved in—until he set it on fire. Kristin tells Dan Roberts and Stacy Elliott how SBF and FTX set things back, but there are still positive signs from crypto friendly voices in Congress.

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Hosts and guests:

Dan Roberts

Twitter: @readDanwrite

Stacy Elliott

Twitter: @stacyannj

Kristin Smith

Twitter: @KMSmithDC

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