Many things to consider when becoming self-reliant.

If the system can't take care of us, how do we take care of ourselves?

In a word, exit.

Our guest, Ben Sullins, has exited his dependence on water and electricity and has learned to produce them both on his own for his entire family.

Learn more and connect with Ben:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbEb...


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TIMESTAMPS:
0:03 Podcast introduction
2:29 Work & kids
6:30 Guest introduction
8:57 Off grid setup
13:29 Solar water panels
15:04 Energy usage
17:23 Off grid food production
23:31 Coronavirus future
37:37 Covid climate effects
39:15 Recovery of economy
54:21 Contact info