As AI races ahead, trust is collapsing, and workers are disengaging. This conversation dives into a new model of leadership, real-world use cases, and why starting with problems, not technology, is the key to unlocking AI’s potential.

In this episode, Lisa and Julia Stamm discuss:

• Global power dynamics and narratives around AI (East vs. West, race to AGI)
• Fear, job loss, and collapsing trust in AI and institutions
• Responsible AI and women-led, problem-first innovation
• New leadership models: uncertainty, trust, and bottom-up transformation
• Concrete AI use cases in healthcare, safety, climate, and everyday life

Key Takeaways: 

• You can be excited about AI’s potential and still have a responsibility to question how it is built, governed, and deployed.
• Fear-driven narratives and “race” rhetoric around AI erode trust, especially when people see job losses but not tangible benefits in their own lives.
• The most promising AI solutions start from real, deeply understood problems and communities, not from the technology itself.
• Successful AI transformation inside organizations depends far more on trust, change management, and inclusive leadership than on the tools alone.
• Embracing uncertainty, inviting critical questions, and involving diverse expertise are essential if AI is to improve people’s lives instead of merely boosting efficiency.

“You can love technology and AI, and you should still ask questions.” - Julia Stamm

About Julia Stamm: Dr. Julia Stamm is a futurist, entrepreneur, and global advocate for responsible AI innovation. After leaving the European Commission a decade ago, she set out to ensure that technology and innovation serve humanity by aligning progress with human values and empowering people to shape the future, not simply react to it. Her career has spanned academia, policymaking in Brussels, and venture-building, giving her a unique perspective on how culture, policy, and technology intersect. In 2024, Julia founded She Shapes AI, a global movement now active in more than 60 countries that equips leaders with strategic AI fluency, publishes thought leadership, and sparks critical conversations about how technology is built, why it matters, and who gets to shape it.

Editor’s Note: SDGs refer to the United Nations Sustainable Development Goals.

Connect with Julia Stamm:

Website: https://www.sheshapes.ai/ 

Coming Soon: https://juliastamm.com/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-julia-stamm/ 

Substack: https://juliastamm.substack.com/ 

Connect with Lisa Thee:

Website: https://lisathee.com/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisathee/ 

Facebook: https://web.facebook.com/lisa.thee.polvi 

Twitter: https://twitter.com/lisa_thee 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lisatheepolvi/ 

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About Justin Davis: Justin Davis is a four-time startup founder and AI pioneer with over 22 years in tech. He has helped build and scale infrastructure used by billions of devices worldwide, including early ad tech platforms and AI-powered trust and safety systems that protect online communities. A former executive at companies acquired by Microsoft and Salesforce, Justin has led organizations through rapid growth, cultural transformation, and meaningful exits.

After stepping away from executive life in 2024, Justin embarked on a year-long sabbatical focused on healing, creative expression, and redefining success. Today, he is the co-founder of Eleven Dunbar, a curated community built around deep connection, creativity, and intentional growth. His work centers on helping leaders move from burnout and survival into freedom, peace, joy, and authentic community.

In this episode, Lisa and Justin Davis discuss:

• Justin’s journey from early internet sales at Cisco to building AI systems that scaled to billions of users
• The power of mission, vision, and values in creating thriving company cultures
• Burnout, grief, and the identity crisis that followed stepping down as CEO
• The role of creative expression, nature, and stillness in rediscovering purpose
• Plant medicine, integration work, and confronting self-limiting belief systems

Key Takeaways: 

• Culture is not perks — it’s how people feel and how decisions are made when leadership isn’t in the room. Justin’s companies scaled globally because trust, growth, collaboration, and passion were embedded from day one and reinforced consistently.
• Burnout often hides behind achievement. Even while leading high-performing AI companies, Justin was privately navigating grief, anxiety, and exhaustion — a reminder that external success does not guarantee internal alignment.
• Creative expression and play are not luxuries; they are neurological and emotional necessities. Activities that move us out of our heads and into our bodies can rewire stress patterns and reconnect us to our authentic selves.
• Self-limiting beliefs formed in childhood quietly shape adult ambition and identity. Confronting and releasing those internal narratives can unlock profound freedom and emotional clarity.
• Integration is the real work of transformation. Whether through plant medicine, therapy, or major life shifts, lasting change comes from building daily rituals, habits, and routines that reinforce new awareness.

“The space by which you can expand internally, the spirit, the heart, the mind, is infinite.” - Justin Davis

Connect with Justin Davis:

Website: https://www.elevendunbar.com/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justindavis/ 

Connect with Lisa Thee:

Website: https://lisathee.com/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisathee/ 

Facebook: https://web.facebook.com/lisa.thee.polvi 

Twitter: https://twitter.com/lisa_thee 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lisatheepolvi/ 

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About Yamarie Negron: Yamarie Negron is a trauma-informed transition and transformation coach who specializes in identity-level healing. After beginning her career in communications and serving as a director of content marketing at a startup, Yamarie felt called back to her first passion—understanding human behavior and psychology. Her own experience navigating divorce, health challenges, and deep personal transformation led her to develop a unique framework called the Transformation Tree, which integrates biology, identity, nervous system regulation, and behavior change. Today, she helps high-functioning women move from survival strategies to self-led living, expanding their capacity for resilience, relational health, and aligned success.

In this episode, Lisa and Yamarie Negron discuss:

• Yamarie’s pivot from corporate marketing to trauma-informed coaching
• The difference between behavior change and identity-level transformation
• Awareness, acceptance, and alignment as non-linear phases of healing
• Boundaries, relational health, and expanding nervous system resilience
• Redefining success beyond achievement and external validation

Key Takeaways: 

• Healing is not a destination; it is a continuous journey back to wholeness. As Yamarie explains, transformation unfolds through ongoing awareness, acceptance, and alignment, not a single breakthrough moment.
• Many high achievers focus on changing behaviors without addressing the deeper identity and biological roots that fuel them. Lasting transformation requires working with the nervous system, not against it.
• Survival strategies like fixing, forcing, or operating from fear, obligation, guilt, and shame may have once kept us safe. But over time, they quietly erode capacity and limit relational and personal growth.
• Capacity is not just about time management. It’s about nervous system regulation, boundaries, and self-honoring choices. Expanding capacity requires both internal awareness and practical skill-building.
• True success evolves. For Yamarie, success is no longer defined by achievement or income alone, but by self-preservation, health, alignment, and honoring her well-being along the path.

“That's what acceptance is really about, is acknowledging the things that you can and cannot influence, impact, and change.” - Yamarie Negron

Connect with Yamarie Negron:

Website: https://www.yamarienegron.com/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/yamarienegron/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/namastenslay/ 

Transformation Tree Framework: Why Doing The Inner Work Isn't Changing Results - https://www.yamarienegron.com/why-inner-work-isnt-working-transformation-tree 

Connect with Lisa Thee:

Website: https://lisathee.com/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisathee/ 

Facebook: https://web.facebook.com/lisa.thee.polvi 

Twitter: https://twitter.com/lisa_thee 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lisatheepolvi/ 

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About Rashida Malcolm Bradley: Rashida Malcolm Bradley is a healthcare analytics and finance leader with over a decade of experience working at the intersection of enterprise healthcare, data science, and capital deployment. Currently serving in a senior leadership role at a Fortune 5 healthcare organization, Rashida focuses on pricing strategy, predictive analytics, and pharmacy benefit management to improve affordability, access, and outcomes across the healthcare ecosystem. Her career journey spans investment banking, private banking, international finance operations, and corporate healthcare strategy, including roles at Lehman Brothers, Citi, JP Morgan, and CVS Health. With a deep passion for health equity, women’s health, and servant leadership, Rashida brings a mission-driven lens to how AI and analytics can make the invisible visible for decision-makers while creating more sustainable, human-centered healthcare systems.

In this episode, Lisa and Rashida Malcolm Bradley discuss:

• Rashida’s career journey from investment banking to healthcare analytics leadership
• How AI, predictive analytics, and pricing strategy are reshaping healthcare decision-making
• The role of capital deployment in improving access, affordability, and health outcomes
• Navigating mission-driven work inside large, publicly traded organizations
• Defining success through alignment, balance, and servant leadership

Key Takeaways: 

• Healthcare outcomes are deeply influenced by how capital is allocated, and decisions are made behind the scenes. Rashida highlights how data transparency and analytics can drive more equitable and sustainable healthcare models.
• AI serves as a decision-support tool that enhances human judgment rather than replacing it. When used effectively, predictive analytics can improve affordability, access, and long-term patient outcomes.
• Mission-driven leadership is possible within large enterprises when leaders stay grounded in purpose. Rashida emphasizes keeping patient impact front and center, even while navigating financial and shareholder pressures.
• Career resilience in an AI-driven economy requires continuous upskilling and intentional networking. Investing in education and relationships allows professionals to stay relevant and create new opportunities.
• True success is defined by alignment between values, energy, and impact. For Rashida, leadership means serving others, mentoring the next generation, and creating balance across professional and personal life.

“You can measure success with titles, visibility, external validation, and those things are nice, don't get me wrong. But now I think about it from a sense of alignment in my values, my energy, and how I spend my time.” - Rashida Malcolm Bradley

Connect with Rashida Malcolm Bradley:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rashidabradley/ 

Connect with Lisa Thee:

Website: https://lisathee.com/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisathee/ 

Facebook: https://web.facebook.com/lisa.thee.polvi 

Twitter: https://twitter.com/lisa_thee 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lisatheepolvi/ 

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About Sarah Porter: Sarah Porter is the CEO and founder of Boardwalk Health, an AI-powered healthcare software company focused on improving outcomes for patients with complex and chronic conditions. With nearly a decade of experience building early-stage startups across edtech and HR tech, Sarah’s entrepreneurial path took a deeply personal turn after she was diagnosed with Postural Orthostatic Tachycardia Syndrome (POTS). Frustrated by a healthcare system that often overlooks and misunderstands complex cases, she founded Boardwalk Health to bridge the gap between patients and providers by reducing prep time, improving continuity of care, and empowering physicians with actionable insights. Sarah is a passionate advocate for patient-centered innovation and a visible leader redefining what compassionate, effective healthcare can look like.

In this episode, Lisa and Sarah Porter discuss:

• Sarah’s journey from startup operator to founder after being diagnosed with POTS
• The systemic gaps in healthcare for patients with chronic and complex conditions
• How Boardwalk Health uses AI to reduce provider prep time and improve patient outcomes
• Managing energy, leadership, and entrepreneurship while living with a chronic illness
• Redefining success, legacy, and impact in healthcare innovation

Key Takeaways: 

• Personal pain can become a powerful catalyst for systemic change when paired with purpose and execution. Sarah’s experience navigating chronic illness revealed deep flaws in healthcare and inspired her to build a solution from the inside out.
• Chronic illness forces entrepreneurs to think differently about energy, sustainability, and leadership. Success often depends not on doing more, but on building safeguards, support systems, and intentional boundaries.
• AI can enhance, not replace, healthcare providers when designed to meet them within existing workflows. By reducing prep time and clarifying patient data, providers can focus on what matters most: care and connection.
• Early hiring decisions shape the trajectory of a startup more than founders often realize. Clear documentation, product vision, and role alignment are essential, especially for non-technical founders.
• True success goes beyond growth metrics and exits. For Sarah, impact is measured by lives improved, patients heard, and a healthcare system made more humane for future generations.

“Success is saying I found this huge thing that's broken in this big system, and I'm going to fix it, and it's going to impact all of these lives.” - Sarah Porter

Connect with Sarah Porter:

Website: https://mymeddefend.com/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahatboardwalk/ 

Podcast: The Capital Maze

Connect with Lisa Thee:

Website: https://lisathee.com/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisathee/ 

Facebook: https://web.facebook.com/lisa.thee.polvi 

Twitter: https://twitter.com/lisa_thee 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lisatheepolvi/ 

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About Cindy DiTiberio: Cindy DiTiberio is an author, ghostwriter, and creator of The Mother Lode on Substack, a candid community where she writes about motherhood, divorce, and rediscovering identity in midlife. After nearly a decade of ghostwriting for others, Cindy began sharing her own story during the pandemic, sparking honest conversations about emotional labor, gender roles, and personal reinvention. Her forthcoming book explores how she lost and reclaimed herself through marriage, divorce, and self-discovery. Passionate about storytelling, Cindy helps others share their truths and believes stories connect us and make us feel less alone.

In this episode, Lisa and Cindy DiTiberio discuss:

• How the pandemic inspired Cindy’s Substack: The Mother Lode
• Motherhood, marriage, and emotional overload during lockdown
• When therapy helps and when it harms in struggling relationships
• Recognizing covert narcissism and emotional abuse
• Healing, dating, and rediscovering joy in midlife

Key Takeaways: 

• The pandemic exposed many hidden inequalities in family systems and led to what Cindy calls “pandemic divorcees.”
• Sometimes, therapy reinforces unhealthy dynamics if a partner is not open to change or accountability.
• Emotional abuse and narcissism can be difficult to recognize until long after a relationship ends.
• Healing after divorce requires deep self-awareness, boundary-setting, and the courage to choose yourself.
• Rediscovering desire and joy in midlife through dating, storytelling, or self-expression is a powerful form of rebirth.
• Life after divorce is full of possibilities; reinvention is not failure but evolution.

“We can reinvent ourselves over and over and over again. Like, literally, I think that's what we're here to do, is just evolve and shed skins that that we've outgrown and move on to the next version of us.” - Cindy DiTiberio

Connect with Cindy DiTiberio:

Website: https://cindyditiberio.com/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cynthia-ditiberio-b6141b5/ 

Twitter: https://x.com/CindyDT 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cindy.ditiberio 

Substack: https://substack.com/@cindyditiberio & https://cindyditiberio.substack.com/ 

Connect with Lisa Thee:

Website: https://lisathee.com/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisathee/ 

Facebook: https://web.facebook.com/lisa.thee.polvi 

Twitter: https://twitter.com/lisa_thee 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lisatheepolvi/ 

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About Blake Kuhre: Blake Kuhre is the Co-Founder of LAPS, an award-winning virtual influencer and digital double agency with offices in Los Angeles, Paris, and Seoul. A Texas native and journalism graduate from the University of Missouri, Blake began his career at The Walt Disney Company, where he spent a decade as an Executive Producer and Host on Radio Disney, reaching over 22 million Gen Z and Millennial listeners nationwide. After Disney, he transitioned into digital strategy, shaping growth at innovative startups across streaming and social platforms, including Hulu, Newzulu, LiveMe, Match, and The Meet Group. Today, Blake leads LAPS in redefining connection through creativity, technology, and human storytelling.

In this episode, Lisa and Blake discuss:

• How online dating evolved and shifted after the pandemic
• The impact of AI, virtual influencers, and fake profiles on trust and safety
• How loneliness fuels engagement on dating and social apps
• The struggle for authenticity, chemistry, and real-world connection
• The thin line between innovation, addiction, and emotional fulfillment

Key Takeaways: 

• The pandemic accelerated digital intimacy, but it also reignited people’s longing for genuine, in-person experiences. While virtual dating offered convenience, it reminded many that real chemistry still happens face-to-face.
• Dating apps continue to evolve, yet the industry still grapples with maintaining a balance between engagement, safety, and authenticity. As features expand, user trust remains the hardest metric to scale.
• Artificial intelligence brings both promise and peril. It enhances profiles and personalizes experiences, yet also fuels the rise of fake personas that distort reality and blur the boundaries of truth online.
• Loneliness sits at the heart of modern connection. It’s the emotional engine driving users to swipe, match, and message—and the same challenge companies are constantly trying to solve.
• True chemistry and human connection can’t be replicated by technology. Algorithms may predict compatibility, but they can’t replace the energy, intuition, and magic of real human interaction.

“Chemistry—that’s the number one thing you can’t fake. I always say chemistry is the most important thing in every relationship, personal or business. You either have it or you don’t. Skills and everything else you can learn, but you either have a really good relationship with someone off the bat, or not.” - Blake Kuhre

Connect with Blake Kuhre: 

Website: https://www.laps-inc.com/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bkuhre/ 

Connect with Lisa Thee:

Website: https://lisathee.com/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisathee/ 

Facebook: https://web.facebook.com/lisa.thee.polvi 

Twitter: https://twitter.com/lisa_thee 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lisatheepolvi/ 

Lisa’s BOOK: Go!: Reboot Your Career in 90 Days 

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About Bara Mann: Bara Mann is a transformational life coach, energy healer, speaker, and writer who is passionate about helping people release fears, insecurities, and limiting patterns to live with confidence and joy. After leaving her career as an engineer to follow her healing journey, she trained in Reiki, pendulum healing, and the Emotion Code, blending these practices with coaching for powerful, lasting results. Bara shares her experiences and insights on building confidence, setting boundaries, deepening connections, and finding joy even in challenging circumstances. Her mission is simple yet profound: to create a world where everyone feels they belong, are empowered, and get to thrive truly.

In this episode, Lisa and Bara discuss:

• How overthinkers can reduce self-sabotage to increase joy and productivity
• The Positive Intelligence framework and its role in reshaping thought patterns
• Bara’s transition from engineering to transformational coaching and speaking
• Practical mindfulness techniques to handle overwhelm and unwanted change
• Redefining success, legacy, and what it means to live authentically

Key Takeaways: 

• Self-sabotage is often fueled by recurring thought patterns, but with awareness and deliberate shifts, individuals can move past these habits. This opens the door to greater fulfillment, confidence, and impact in both personal and professional life.
• The Positive Intelligence framework empowers people to access their “sage” mind—their clearest, most authentic self—rather than staying trapped in the limiting “saboteur” mode. By doing so, they gain clarity, emotional balance, and better decision-making.
• Mindfulness practices, such as pausing to notice physical sensations, help ground individuals in the present moment. This state of presence creates space for clearer thinking and more intentional actions.
• Success is no longer defined by titles, salaries, or external recognition. Instead, it’s about cultivating inner peace and joy that lead to a more sustainable and meaningful way of living.
• No one thrives alone—having trusted coaches, mentors, or supportive friends is essential when navigating change. These relationships provide guidance, perspective, and strength during life’s toughest transitions.

“I want people to feel more free, to be their full, authentic self, to bring all of themselves to everywhere they go, and to help give them a path to do that.” - Bara Mann

Connect with Bara Mann: 

Website: https://www.baraco.org/  

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bara-mann/ 

Email: [email protected] 

Connect with Lisa Thee:

Website: https://lisathee.com/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisathee/ 

Facebook: https://web.facebook.com/lisa.thee.polvi 

Twitter: https://twitter.com/lisa_thee 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lisatheepolvi/ 

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About Robyn White: Robyn White is a certified professional coach, faculty member at the University of Denver, and host of The Boss Yourself First Podcast. She’s the author of The Three Permissions: The Power of Allowing Yourself to Feel, Fail, and Fly on the Path to Success. With a background in psychology and certifications including ICF PCC and RightPath, Robyn empowers people to lead themselves with clarity, compassion, and courage. Her work focuses on self-leadership, emotional agility, and personal agency—equipping individuals to navigate transitions, recover from burnout, and lead with intention. Whether she’s coaching clients, teaching students, or speaking on her podcast, Robyn’s mission is simple: help people build awareness, embrace growth, and take action that creates lasting impact.

In this episode, Lisa and Robyn discuss:

• Robyn’s book, The Three Permissions, and how it empowers self-leadership
• Why emotional literacy and energy alignment are critical to personal success
• How to redefine success across life seasons using core values
• Navigating the “sandwich season” of life—supporting both aging parents and grown children
• Practical tools and permission practices for managing failure, burnout, and change

Key Takeaways: 

• Success is fluid. What you once defined as success may no longer serve you—redefining it based on your current values and season of life creates deeper fulfillment.
• Awareness is where self-leadership begins. By noticing where your energy feels most aligned, you gain clarity on what truly matters and how to move forward with intention.
• Feelings are not obstacles—they're valuable information. When you develop emotional literacy, you gain the ability to navigate discomfort and stay connected to your growth.
• Failure is not final. Instead of avoiding it, embracing failure with curiosity and compassion can transform it into one of your greatest teachers.
• Permission is a catalyst for change. The moment you stop waiting for external validation and start allowing yourself to feel, fail, and fly—that’s when true agency begins, and others feel empowered to do the same.

“When you give yourself permission, other people get inspired to give themselves permission. And it's this amazing piece of impact that I think we sometimes forget, because we feel very inward-focused when we're focused on self-leadership, but it actually has a massive outward impact for others.”

- Robyn White

Connect with Robyn White: 

Website: https://bossyourselffirst.com/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robyn-white-pcc-cplc-33892033/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bossyourselffirst/ 

Robyn’s Book: https://bossyourselffirst.com/three-permissions/ 

Podcast:  https://bossyourselffirst.com/podcast/ 

Connect with Lisa Thee:

Website: https://lisathee.com/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisathee/ 

Facebook: https://web.facebook.com/lisa.thee.polvi 

Twitter: https://twitter.com/lisa_thee 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lisatheepolvi/ 

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About Kate Keisel: Kate Keisel is the Co-CEO of the Sanar Institute, where she leads a diverse team providing trauma-conscious, person-centered care to individuals and communities impacted by interpersonal trauma. With over 15 years of global experience in anti-trafficking and trauma recovery across the U.S., Latin America, West Africa, and South Asia, Kate is a leader in building trauma-specific services worldwide. She holds a Master’s in Clinical Social Work focused on complex trauma and advanced training in EMDR, Trauma-Sensitive Yoga, and other healing modalities. Drawing from her own lived experience, Kate is committed to ensuring everyone has the tools, support, and agency to heal, thrive, and reclaim their lives after trauma.

In this episode, Lisa and Kate discuss:

• How Kate rediscovered her identity beyond being a CEO and trauma therapist
• The personal and professional shifts that came with chronic illness and burnout
• Redefining success from public recognition to quiet, sustainable impact
• The value of embodied healing practices and nature-based routines
• Practical tools for mental health recovery, including sensory kits and movement

Key Takeaways: 

• When leadership and service dominate your identity, it becomes easy to lose sight of who you are outside your professional role. Kate's journey highlights the importance of intentionally creating space for yourself to thrive.
• Success doesn’t always come with fanfare. Often, it’s the quiet, consistent contributions made away from the spotlight that create the most meaningful impact.
• Kate’s experience with chronic illness served as a turning point, forcing her to slow down and reassess what truly matters. That shift led her toward a life aligned with her values and capacity.
• True healing isn't found in perfect routines or instant fixes. Instead, it emerges slowly through presence, patience, and the repeated practice of nurturing your nervous system.
• Reconnecting with joy and spontaneity—whether through raising ducks, gardening, or playful movement—can revive the parts of you dulled by overwork or emotional exhaustion.

“The most rewarding part of this journey has been finally feeling at home in myself, like a little piece of calm has returned to my nervous system. There was a time I couldn’t imagine past the afternoon. Now, I can dream forward—and that sense of purpose fuels everything. Healing isn't about grand gestures; it's about choosing the little things—drinking water, taking vitamins, creating routines—and knowing those choices quietly change your life.”

- Kate Keisel

Connect with Kate Keisel: 

Website: https://sanar-institute.org/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kate-keisel-3a676041/ 

Connect with Lisa Thee:

Website: https://lisathee.com/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisathee/ 

Facebook: https://web.facebook.com/lisa.thee.polvi 

Twitter: https://twitter.com/lisa_thee 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lisatheepolvi/ 

Lisa’s BOOK: Go!: Reboot Your Career in 90 Days 

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