Best of interview with Rick D. Boyer- God, Caesar and Idols: The Church and the Struggle for America's Soul.

https://www.amazon.com/God-Caesar-Idols-Struggle-Americas-ebook/dp/B09S3QWZPR/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3GAXP50S5WSA9&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.RdtXFpWuTtLlbWhg8uWexY-k5uEdoSSOJEq91TcZEj_DXheTV83iiwb35YlZoo-_Oe9KWfIdMaGknl3jPgeEIEF8B47aywiDVb4UfZcIsvQOZ45ejVW_Qak40p7jbOOIFZOYJTBOs0k5vYV_Ql34NITOeqyCDaLu99b33E0VUM532NeQ_uaM0wlSRo6XIy13FZ2LOQKscrv5J_-r0ciMHjkGRVjaTXLOzmWqcE8KWtg.MZlIFxlgIseD61NGxmqH2EcZ46aOC4VD-dqIHTcD1Ss&dib_tag=se&keywords=God+Caesar+and+Idols&qid=1762553881&sprefix=god+caesar+and+idols%2Caps%2C378&sr=8-1