In this episode of In The Waves, I talk with Jason Adam Miller about what it looks like to remain rooted in a tradition while being open to The More, the difference between being centered and bounded, and the beautiful invitation to an ever-expanding sense of Self and God.

Jason Miller is the founding and teaching pastor of South Bend City Church, an eclectic Christian community known for its thoughtful teaching, inclusive vision, and commitment to its city context. He is an artist for whom the sermon is his song, and a teacher who is asking a lot of questions. His first book, When The World Breaks, comes out August 1. 

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